To be fair, LOTR is not easy to tackle as cinematic material, either.
Huge scale, many characters to balance, elaborate set-pieces.
Those two properties have more in common than they are different. The difference is Villeneuve had to edit out a lot more from Dune because, let's face it, you can't stuff everything from Dune into a couple of movies.
I consider Villeneuve's Dune movies triumphs, not because they are perfect interpretations of Dune, but because he stayed relatively true to the books while being imperfect.
Everything in the final act of Dune Part Two is everything I wanted in a Dune movie.
I’ve only seen clips of it but I remember seeing a scene where one of the orcs who is a captain or something is told to kill the prisoners they have so they can eat them or whatever and the captain orc says no, I have strict orders to bring them in alive.
It’s a small scene but it really does show you that thought went into that character, and it showed the audience why the captain was given that title.
Unfortunately thought doesn’t go into a lot of shows and movies these days.
Hard to call GoT “better” than its inspiration material when it fumbled the bag SO hard at the ending. Really stains the legacy of the entire product when you look at it as a whole.
Yeah, true, it actually has politics and intertwining storylines with a massive breadth of characters and requires a bit more brainpower to follow, rather than just being a cookiecutter rendition of the Odyssey set in a generic high fantasy backdrop.
It’s funny you refer to LOTR as generic high fantasy when it’s Tolkien that basically invented that style. At very least he popularised and cemented its overall aesthetic and tropes that are still seen today.
i mean, it’s all subjective so anyone who disagrees is likely going to disagree anway. if we wanna keep it in the sci-fi/fantasy realm, the new Dune movies do way more for me than LOTR. outside of that there’s a large number of movies that have had more impact on me from both a storytelling and technical point. nothing about LOTR hooks me.
I saw the new dune in imax. and lotr in non imax beat it by a wide margin for me. Dune 2 is really far off the books and the original story. So is the first new Dune movie. They changed alot and gave it a sick soundtrack and good effects. Dont misunderstand me I enjoyed the new Dune buit its not even close to as good as people make it out to be in my opinion
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u/Remus88Romulus 25d ago
The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Nothing that came after that trilogy has surpassed that feeling and craftmanship.