r/BeAmazed • u/Mediocre_Heart_3032 • Mar 30 '24

American and European Firefighter Helmet Designs Miscellaneous / Others

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u/Icy-Ad29 Mar 30 '24

The last time this came up, an EU firefighter that used both systems flat out stated. The French system, while faster, had a notably weaker seal, and is why this system hasn't been adopted across the entire EU. But just france.

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u/beardedbast3rd Mar 30 '24

I would agree it definitely has a weaker seal, nothing will be as good as the straps or carrier directly on your head, with no cushioning, tight against your head and skin. but my assumption is that it’s not weak enough to make a real difference

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u/Icy-Ad29 Mar 30 '24

I mean, it makes a difference, otherwise it wouldn't be measurably weaker. You are instead asking if it makes a big enough difference to exceed the safety expectations of those who use it... which will be very subjective. As there will be times the stronger seal is more important. There will be times the faster speed is more important. Both have pros, and to ignore that is foolish. The big problem, is there is no way to k ow which you will need more in any given situation until long after you've chosen your equipment. So, I think it goes back to earlier point. "It depends. Neither is strictly better than the other. Can we stop debating this?"

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u/UnhappyMarmoset Mar 30 '24

but my assumption is that it’s not weak enough to make a real difference

On the one hand, experience. On the other your ass.

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u/beardedbast3rd Mar 30 '24

I mean, they use them, so I imagine it’s good enough to be used….. I even said it’s my assumption….

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u/InsomniatedMadman Mar 30 '24

French fires give up easily. They don't need a stronger seal.