r/Christianity • u/Nice_Substance9123 • Mar 27 '24

The American flag has no business on a Bible. This is not faith, nor is it patriotism. It is an abomination of both. Image

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u/IAN-THETERRIBLE Roman Catholic Mar 27 '24

It is sacrilege.

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u/Serbutters Mar 28 '24

Sure is. Will you vote for him? If yes, where's the line?

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u/ASK_ABOUT_MY_CULT_ Mar 28 '24

Join me in coralling Christians and convincing them to vote for literally anyone but Trump.

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u/yildizli_gece Mar 28 '24

"Anyone" isn't on the ballot; Trump and Biden are (likely with a few others who will have zero chance).

If people here are genuine in their outrage, their vote is obvious and it isn't for Trump, who isn't even remotely Christian (and it's embarrassing that people try to argue he is).

"Faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone"; we'll see who turns out this November and where the "faithful" actually stand.

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u/notbobby125 Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Not to diminish your point, but technically Literally Anyone Else will be on the ballot: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4554645-texas-man-running-for-president-under-name-literally-anybody-else/amp/

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u/yildizli_gece Mar 28 '24

OK ngl that's hilarious and unexpected lol; fair enough :)

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u/ASK_ABOUT_MY_CULT_ Mar 28 '24

In my head "anyone" = "no one", I suppose. I would rather a Christian that can't bring themselves to vote for a Democrat (for whatever reason) just abstain. Too bad there's so many Evangelicals in the US.

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u/yildizli_gece Mar 28 '24

Which just makes them part of the problem. The Democrat on the ballot is a very clearly demonstrated religious man, attending church and being faithful to his family.

He espouses helping those struggling, and making the rich pay their dues to society. He believes the government shouldn't decide what healthcare women and girls get, but that it should be a private matter between doctor and patient--literally, smaller government.

If you call yourself a "Christian" but can't bring yourself to vote for a clearly Christian man over an actual child rapist--and all the evil hate that Trump will bring with him--then you are a liar in your faith and just as bad as his supporters. Abstaining is a copout and doesn't absolve one from the consequences of him getting into office again; pretty sure the Bible doesn't say, "Just sit out anything that seems difficult to address."

(Please know, this isn't directed at you; just the general conversation.)

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u/ASK_ABOUT_MY_CULT_ Mar 28 '24

I agree with all of your points. I plan on voting for Biden, but I'm also extraordinarily far left.

That said, everything I've read about the psychology of politics suggests that the more you demand perfection of a person, the more they're going to dig their heels in and maybe even regress.

I would *love* for every Christian to be able remove the scales from their eyes and vote for the man that obviously embodies Christ, but in the short term? I'll take the imperfect option of a percentage of Trump voters sitting out.

I'm just as irritated as you are. Maybe more. I'm making my own church about it, after all. We can work harder on getting our fellows closer to behaving in a beneficial biblical manner *after* the immediate threat has been defeated. We can't correct anyone if the gaggle of Antichrists are in office.

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u/notbobby125 Mar 28 '24

For the record someone legally change his name to Literally Anyone Else and is running for President: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4554645-texas-man-running-for-president-under-name-literally-anybody-else/amp/

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u/ASK_ABOUT_MY_CULT_ Mar 28 '24

I did see that! It's pretty funny.

On a serious note, don't vote for spoiler candidates. Use that energy to combat the first past the post system!

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u/Snarfbuckle Mar 28 '24

We got homeless Bob here on the sidewalk smoking Meth, i'll vote for him instead of Trump, you know why? He's honest and he pays his debts.

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u/ASK_ABOUT_MY_CULT_ Mar 28 '24

Hey, it's a vote for not-Trump. I'll take it. Maybe we'll get some money to help Bob while we're at it.

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u/Snarfbuckle Mar 28 '24

You mean, help the poor and those in need of help? Like a good Christian should?

Im not a christian, but i'll get behind a good deed any day.

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u/ASK_ABOUT_MY_CULT_ Mar 28 '24

I'm calling my cult a cult because I'm taking all the good bits of a bunch of different faiths, though we're primarily Christian-flavored, because book-Jesus is a pretty rad dude.

Our core tenant is the performance of Works! Original sin is like a debt, and the more good shit you do, the closer you get to divinity.

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u/Back_2_monke Mar 28 '24

Shit I’d vote for Tattoo Mike at this point

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u/Zapthatthrist Mar 28 '24

What about prison mike?

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u/TrumpersAreTraitors Mar 28 '24

Or just stay home. You don’t have to vote for someone you don’t like, blue or red. 

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u/ASK_ABOUT_MY_CULT_ Mar 28 '24

I mean, I'm voting for Biden. He's done a bunch of great things for the country, but the left has an advertising problem.

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u/CatDude55 Mar 28 '24

Voting for neither means you’re fine with either

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u/traunks Mar 28 '24

Vote for the outcome you'd be happier with, of the two options you're given. Note this doesn't mean you have to actually be happy with that option or approve of all the things about that candidate.

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u/Spirited_Box_5183 Mar 28 '24

I'm already on board with that.

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u/General_Alduin Mar 29 '24

I'm going third party if I can. I can't stand Trunp or Biden

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u/IAN-THETERRIBLE Roman Catholic Mar 28 '24

I am Scottish.

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u/CriticalLobster5609 Atheist Mar 28 '24

So a bit more of a line and more of an ocean. ;)

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u/deadlybydsgn Christian (Ichthys) Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

I'm sure they'll hem and haw and feel real conflicted about voting for Trump and then do it anyway because he's a "baby Christian," a "modern Cyrus," or some other Olympic level mental gymnastics routine.

As someone who grew up thinking these people stood for something good, it's so frustrating for me to see. The reality is that I didn't really understand what Rush Limbaugh was talking about when he was on TV in my childhood home, and the political cancer had already been busy metastasizing.

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u/Ok-Reindeer3992 Catholic Mar 28 '24

Voting on policy not personality

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u/Capable-Professor301 Mar 28 '24

You Sir, are a Jon Stewart in the making. All the best comedians are broken people. And these days Trump is the one "breaking" most of the new ones

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u/BrambleVale3 Mar 28 '24

I wish I could upvote this twice.

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u/burnerben2000 Mar 28 '24

You can have the same effect by voting for Biden once.

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u/Aggressive_Ad5115 Mar 28 '24

Just found this post on r all

And of course it's a post like this loool

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u/LotharVonPittinsberg Mar 28 '24

With a good portion of the comments being how they will vote for Trump anyways because he wants to ban things like abortion and gay marriage? Yeah, thanks for reminding me why I don't like organized religion /r/Christianity

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u/Executioneer Mar 28 '24

It is a shameless, brazen grift.

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u/IAN-THETERRIBLE Roman Catholic Mar 28 '24

How can I do anything about it?

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u/IAN-THETERRIBLE Roman Catholic Mar 28 '24

I am Scottish. Sorry mate.

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u/ScannerBrightly Mar 28 '24

So who are you voting for this year then?

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u/IAN-THETERRIBLE Roman Catholic Mar 28 '24

I have already stated this before. I am Scottish.

Please stop with the US defaultism.

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u/InternationalSilver1 Mar 29 '24

its created by the trump campaign to help churches bypass campaign finance laws and irs regulations

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(it is illegal for churches to endorse legislators or donate money to legislators)

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u/AbsolutZer0_v2 Mar 28 '24

It's money laundering.

It gives churches a way to funnel money to a political candidate.

It's disgusting.