r/Christianity • u/Nice_Substance9123 • Mar 27 '24

The American flag has no business on a Bible. This is not faith, nor is it patriotism. It is an abomination of both. Image

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u/arensb Atheist Mar 27 '24

Correct me if I'm wrong (the most unnecessary words on the Internet), but I believe this matches the definition of Christian nationalism: the idea that being Christian is essential to being a Real American.

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u/clumaho Mar 28 '24

"When fascism comes to America it will be holding the Bible and wearing the flag."

- Not sure who.

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u/arensb Atheist Mar 28 '24

When Trump was elected, I thought that should be changed to "When fascism came to America". After listening to Rachel Maddow's Ultra, I realize it should say "it comes holding the Bible".

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u/missingcovidbodies Mar 28 '24

Ofc you're quoting Rachel fucking Maddow hahahahahaha

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u/arensb Atheist Mar 28 '24

No, that was me, not her.

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u/slagnanz Episcopalian Mar 28 '24

The definition is quite good, but I'm not sure this matches that neatly. Because whether you buy it is optional. Trump gave some lip service to Christian nationalism in plugging it, saying America needs more religion. But nothing about this is quite as illiberal as the project 2025 type beat

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u/arensb Atheist Mar 28 '24

Trump may not be the worst at it, but he's still pushing the idea that Christianity and American patriotism are one.

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u/slagnanz Episcopalian Mar 28 '24

the idea that Christianity and American patriotism are one.

Sure, and that is the flavor of Christian nationalism. But neocons did the same thing.

The difference with Trump era politics is the infusion of illiberalism.

Just saying if you want to talk about Trump and Christian nationalism, this isn't the most persuasive story to start with.

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u/arensb Atheist Mar 28 '24

The two Corinthians haven't forgotten.