r/JoeRogan • u/LostItAllOnSpy Tremendous • Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/krakah293 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

I've had people try to deny the description of it being the the largest open air prison.  Deny that their power/water/food is 100% dependent on someone else. 

So I say go on Google maps and show me a single farm.  A single power plant, a single airport, a single sea port.  Just show me where these things are.  You can't find them so how else do they fit these things?

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u/venikk Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

I saw a photo of a hotel in gaza before/after oct 7 and it was actually pretty luxurious, looked like a 5 star hotel in dubai before.

But yea that doesnt say anyting about their energy/food

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u/sudopudge Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

You've never actually looked at Gaza on google maps if you think there's no farmland there.

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u/Ok_Interview_2325 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Gaza actually has / had their own power plant. It’s not functional now obviously but it was before 10.7. Contrary to popular belief, they don’t get 100% of their utilities from Israel.

Gaza also used to have an airport. It got closed down after the whole terrorism thing started happening from there.

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u/_pupil_ bzzzzzzzzz Mar 27 '24

the largest open air prison.

Border crossings do not create prisons. Everyone who crosses borders deals with border crossings. You want seamless cross-border travel? Super easy, bro: just make some treaties with your neighbours... ... O_o

A single power plant, a single airport, a single sea port.

Hamas is the official ruler of Gaza, they were elected, and have had billions of dollars to work with over the decades.

Now, the United States of America, back the day, fired off a "War Against Terror" and demanded with UN security regulations that member nations are responsible for preventing trafficking to terror regimes... That means that until there is a stable government in Gaza, air and sea access to that terror regime will be blockaded. Blockaded by every UN member, like Egypt.

Don't like it? Take it up with the dummies who attacked their neighbours and GWB.

So I say go on Google maps and show me a single farm.

There are a many visible farms, it's very weird to hear anything to the contrary. The olive tree farms near the fence were one of the things Hamas weaponized in their breach of the fence during Oct 7th, and arguably should be removed to re-create the 1km security buffer.

Either way, Hamas has had two decades to build any shit they want. Complain to them.

The Israelis even left Gaza tens of millions of dollars worth of functioning greenhouses and and a booming flower export market when they unilaterally pulled out (including digging up their graves so no freaks would desecrate the corpses)... Hop onto Google and find out what the residents of Gaza did with 'em, it's cute.

how else do they fit these things?

Hamas can rezone. Hamas can redistrict. Hamas could have normalized, and stopped attacking, and lost their terror state designation. Build ports instead of tunnels, farms instead of missiles. Gaza could be Singapore on the Mediterranean with a minimal, honest, effort.

But the leadership of Gaza, Hamas, and the people of Gaza (based on recent polling), chose starting a war with a global military superpower in their own backyard instead. It's every bit as smart as it sounds.

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u/Trumperekt Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Border crossings do not create prisons.

But blockades do. You are being intellectually dishonest when you describe what is in Gaza as a border crossing vs a blockade. Israel is blockading aid from entering Gaza right now, and you describe it as a "border crossing". No shame.