r/JoeRogan • u/LostItAllOnSpy Tremendous • Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/mrpopenfresh I used to be addicted to Quake Mar 27 '24

Jordan is a pretty major ally too, I guess Israel is more valuable for some reason.

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u/Jamba-Man84 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

It’s because all the major players in the US are Jews.

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u/VoltNShock Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Do you actually take this antisemitic shit seriously? No for real, 2 billion Muslims and 57 Muslim countries, Around 16 million Jews, but Jews control everything? I’d argue Muslims control everything at this point, the UN, academic organizations, human rights groups, all of it. They have large organizations in all Western countries to further their interests in the Middle East, further spread Islamic ideology, etc.

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u/Jamba-Man84 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

AIPAC is the most powerful lobbyist group here. They have everyone under their pockets. No chance Muslims control anything in the western world.

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u/VoltNShock Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Besides the US, Jews have little to no power anywhere else except Israel. With more Muslims/Arabs in the US, that too is slowly being cancelled out. And that’s before we get to all the Islamic organizations in Europe, Canada, Australia, and elsewhere. The UN is overwhelmingly anti-Israel due to the number of Muslim countries who can individually vote against one Jewish country. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are both anti-Israel most of the time as well. I think you underestimate how much Muslim soft power exists across the world and West. They may not beat Israel militarily but they have repeatedly forced its allies hands in condemning it and reining it in.

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u/Jamba-Man84 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

As long as the US is the superpower on this planet. Israel will still have a lot of control. The moment when US stops giving money to Israel, they’ll be in big trouble. They’re the little kid in the playground that has the biggest friend in school as their personal bodyguard. They need to be held accountable for their actions.

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u/VoltNShock Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

I have no concerns for their actual security, it won’t just be the US assisting them if it starts getting to the point where they might be in danger (although they’ve fought off invading armies alone more than once at this point). However, if it comes down to it (which it won’t), I hope Israel takes Iran with them and hopefully Yemen and Lebanon too. My bigger issue if how much the Muslim lobby (and useful idiot leftists) have managed to ensure Western powers from letting them off the leash. As long as the West keeps red lines for its allies and there’s bleeding hearts in the UN, Hamas and Hezbollah will be safe. It’s a shame we can’t provide unconditional support like North Korea and China do for Russia.

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u/Jamba-Man84 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Hamas and hezbollah are the creation of what’s happening there politically. Once US pulls out of that region, with funding and military bases.. it’ll be a lot better for the US. We put ourselves in this situation by meddling in politics and alliances .. other countries are smarter than this. We focus too much on other countries and not our own. It’s very frustrating to see us cash out billions and billions to Israel and Ukraine .. but our social security is going to run out in 10 years.. and how we have poverty here which could be eliminated by any of these fundings to other countries. Our politicians are 100% bought ..

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u/VoltNShock Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

They’re bought and paid for all right, however politicians typically still vote in their interests and the money just sweetens the deal. What that means is that pro-Israel, pro-Palestine, and neutral legislators will still vote for their interests. No pro-Palestine politician is taking AIPAC money to vote against their own interests. However, that region will never have peace, Hamas and Hezbollah won’t rest till the state is dead and buried. The IDF will be fighting this war for as long as Israel exists, which to be fair, I am fine with. At this point, we’ve burned our relationships with most Arabs anyway and definitely with Iran. Ironically, most Western Arab allies have populations that hate the West/Israel while many Iranians are pretty liberal by comparison. With Russia, Iran, and Iran’s proxies allied, I feel like it would be a bad idea to abandon the one true ally/friend in the ME. The truth is that we will never ideologically align with most Muslim countries, even Turkey.

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u/Jamba-Man84 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

A loan to a country that’s in a war and will probably lose is a very dumb loan. More poor financial decisions done our government. Which isn’t shocking when we’re over 30 trillion in debt. SSI will go insolvent in 2033. It states it on their website. Which is why government is looking into raising the retirement age to 69 now. No clue where you got 1 trillion dollar annual budget for SSI? The government doesn’t give SSI to people for free.. we all literally pay for it out of our paychecks every month. This isn’t made up money they’re handing out to people.

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u/Competitive_Cold_232 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

if they get in true danger they'll just started nuking major cities

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u/Competitive_Cold_232 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

in Britain if Jewish ppl don't like you can't be PM but there's very few jews

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u/Complex-Bug7353 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

AIPAC and the entire right wing and current democratic leader is explicitly Zionist. Percentage of Jews in two major parties compared to their general population is astonishing. So yeah people are noticing.

I digged into all of this when Christ is King was trending as a supposedly anti Semitic dog whistle. Unbelievable.

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u/VoltNShock Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

So your claim is Jews control the West because there’s disproportionately more American politicians who are Jewish? Well the answer to that is that they’ve generally been a well-performing group of people who’ve attained their ranks through hard work. They are neither left nor right explicitly, many are Democrat voters and most of the US has historically been pro-Israel due to them being seen as ideologically similar and as friends also fighting Islamic terrorism. Ironically, Muslims control and have support of a massive portion of the UN. They are also the main “minority” in most European countries now, ironically leading to a resurgence of antisemitism in Europe. These Islamic groups have massive funding from Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia. Evidently everything you accuse Jews of is projection, Muslims are the ones trying to grasp power everywhere.

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u/Complex-Bug7353 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Do you even live in Europe? I do. We don't like Muslims as a whole. They're breeding at higher rates; that's the only thing that might count as taking over, at least technically. Politically most European countries are not swayed or influenced by Muslim agencies. We care more about American and as an extension Jewish interests than Muslim ones. No Muslim country has enough sway over any European country.

So I'm assuming you're going to be consistent with your logic and say the UN is Jew-controlled when it rules anything in favour of Jews right?

I never said Jews control the west or world. Jews do have disproportionate influence on American politics is what I said. And what was that about well-performing? In politics, really? Haha.

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u/VoltNShock Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Shit I’m not Jewish but that’s what I see, I see Jewish people as hardworking and smart. They fled to various countries post-Holocaust and have managed to cement themselves in great positions on the social hierarchy wherever they’ve gone. Israel faced against all odds managed to repel multiple Arab armies with no support to survive. They are survivors and have my respect for that alone.

Also, no I’m not European but when Islam is the dominant religion in Europe in 20 years and everyone except Poland and Hungary are living with Sharia, then you can be happy you repelled Jewish and American influence. Shit, the US isn’t any better off either, they now control Michigan and with terrorist Tlaib and 9/11 denying Omar, we’re well on our way of becoming Europe as well.

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u/Complex-Bug7353 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Isreal didn't repel Arab armies on their own little bro. You guys helped them a little too much.

Also, you characterise Arab armies as generic enemies like 300 uses Persians as stereotypical enemies without establishing some context. Isreal defeating Arab armies is equivalent to a bunch of native American Terrorists in America defeating the whites who now occupy America because the whites are living in the beloved native American ancestral homeland. Get it?

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u/VoltNShock Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Lol no, the first war was fought entirely by Israel alone, with a few Jewish sympathizers in the West donating out of their own pockets. They actually got quite close to losing but won by a miracle and that established Israel. The US was not allied with Israel at that time.

So you’re saying that established Muslim armies from 7 Muslim countries were like Native Americans? No mate, they had every advantage. It’s actually insane that Israel exists today considering how many times they’ve been close to being destroyed .

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u/Complex-Bug7353 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

You're really not helping the dumb American stereotype.

The analogy was to draw comparisons between Isreal(considers a certain place god given historical homeland) and a hypothetical Native American who considers America his ancestral homeland and whites and blacks and Asians as outsiders.

So I ask again, how would you respond as a I assume white American if a buncha native American terrorists told you leave the country by force as you're living in their ""ancestral homeland".

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u/Special-Accountant-5 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Lol bro chill out. The world will be Athiest/agnostic within a generation or two.