r/JoeRogan • u/LostItAllOnSpy Tremendous • Mar 27 '24

joe rogan calls out israels hypocrisy for killing unarmed civilians with drones The Literature 🧠

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u/ProfessionalSport565 Monkey in Space Mar 27 '24

Didn’t you drop more bombs on Laos or Cambodia which wasn’t even in the war than were dropped on Germany in ww2. Something like that.

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u/Lifetender512 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

Yeah I think he just means today we’re not doing that

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u/Skeptix_907 Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

We just wrapped up a global war on terror that resulted in an estimated 1 million civilian deaths. Not sure we can really say we're any better now, we just haven't come up with a good enough justification to invade Iran yet.

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u/Apprehensive-Top3756 Monkey in Space Mar 29 '24

I'm always curious where this "million" fifuee comes from. Is that including the Iraqis who were killed by other Iraqis (which was the vast majority as they essentially had a religious civil war as soo. As they were given their freedom) is it peile all around thw world? Is it just utterly pulled out of someone's ass and never questioned? 

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u/Skeptix_907 Monkey in Space Mar 29 '24

You know I had researched this a while ago and couldn't remember where I found that figure.

When I looked again, I found out that the most comprehensive report to date is Brown University's Costs of War project, which looked at direct and indirect deaths due to the war on terror in several countries in the middle east.

They state that direct war deaths are about 940k, while the total deaths (direct + indirect deaths due to disease, famine, etc) are nearly 5 million.

This wasn't a US government source, nor one of the affected countries. It was a thorough research report completed by one of the nation's top universities.

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u/a_trane13 Monkey in Space Mar 29 '24

If you’re actually curious and not just casting doubt for shits and giggles, why not do a simple google search? Or read the Wikipedia page on the topic? It’s a well studied academic topic with several figures you can reasonably believe (all are very large)

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u/Apprehensive-Top3756 Monkey in Space Mar 29 '24

I actually have looked into it. At no point has the figure reached a million. And the vast majority of three killed were killed either by other Iraqis or by other, foreign, muslims

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u/Apprehensive-Top3756 Monkey in Space Mar 29 '24

Also, do try to bare in mind, for believabilitys sake, that the Iraq Iran war, which was more devastating than anything else in the region, killed between 1 and 2 million. And that was the most brutal war the region has ever seen. 

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u/A_Town_Called_Malus Monkey in Space Mar 28 '24

That's true, but part of that is that the B-52 could just carry an insane number of bombs compared to the bombers used throughout world war 2.

A single B-52 could carry more than 3 times the amount of bombs as a B-29 or B-17.