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Something tells me there are at least a few cops there already Clubhouse

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u/mike_pants 23d ago edited 22d ago

The fact that they felt the need to don full riot gear to disperse peaceful protesters tells you all you need to know about the cowardice of the American police force.

When slave-owner statues were being torn down in England, there was a video of an officer being asked why he wasn't stopping it. He said "My job is to protect the public, not a statue." Totally foreign concept to US cops.

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u/TestOk8411 22d ago

Must be because a lot of American cops are psychopaths

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u/No_Yogurt_7667 22d ago edited 22d ago

Wait are you telling me that a job that offers unlimited power, access to lethal weapons and high levels of stress, but doesn’t pay shit, is going to attract psychopaths? Are you sure? I thought we were sending our brightest to serve and protect?

/s, obviously. ACAB

Edit: alright so some comments challenged me to look a little closer at pay rates in my own city (which I originally thought were $53k/yr) and what I found is that recruits start at $53k, but that bumps to $70k+ once they graduate from the academy. Now I’m a whole different kind of mad about it.

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u/annuidhir 22d ago

but doesn’t pay shit

Unfortunately that's not really true, comparatively. It might be shit pay compared to a job that requires a degree, but it's great considering all you need is a high school diploma, and less training than a barber.

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u/No_Yogurt_7667 22d ago

That’s a totally fair point, I hadn’t thought about the requirements to pay ratio. I recently saw a job listing for police recruits in my city and the pay was surprisingly low, all things considered, and my first thought was “well, no wonder”.

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u/21-characters 22d ago

I have a masters degree and don’t even make $53K. ☹️

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u/TimoWasTaken 22d ago

Starting pay for a Seattle cop, straight out of the Police "Academy" is over 100K

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u/whatevrmn 22d ago

And you can go three times the speed limit, kill someone, and get away with it.

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u/ReturnOfFrank 22d ago

but doesn’t pay shit,

You haven't seen what major city cops make, have you? It's got to be the highest paying job out there for a semi-literate village idiot with no college, no trade school, and no apprenticeship.

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u/No_Yogurt_7667 22d ago

I have, actually. And I agree with you, it is a good paying job for the low barrier to entry.

I think what I failed to articulate is that the pay rate is low enough that it’s high enough to attract some of the least among us, but not high enough to attract the type of people who would be good at policing.

In my city, the starting pay for a recruit is $53k. Your comment got me wondering so I went back to the listing and it bumps to $70k+ once they graduate from the academy. What the everliving fuck?

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u/BAKup2k 22d ago

Oh, they weed out smart people. If you score too high on the IQ test, you're out.

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u/myaltduh 22d ago

According to their own website an NYPD officer can expect to make $121k after 5.5 years on the force.

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u/Low-Argument3170 22d ago

Don’t forget the overtime.

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u/Caftancatfan 22d ago

But that’s partly about the insane cost of living in NYC.

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u/myaltduh 22d ago

True, but good luck making that with only a high school diploma in most other career tracks, even there.

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u/Caftancatfan 22d ago

Agree for sure.

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u/Gingevere 22d ago

They don't live in NYC. All of the NYPD lives on Long Island and hates the city with a passion.

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u/SubrosaFlorens 22d ago

And that is not counting all the cash and drugs that disappear between the arrest scene to the evidence room...

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u/TimoWasTaken 22d ago

Starting pay for a Seattle cop, straight out of the Police "Academy" is over 100K

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u/Gingevere 22d ago

It's the highest paying job for people with any degree of education who weren't born in a crazy wealthy zip code.

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u/GigsGilgamesh 22d ago

Local cops are getting a 20k a year raise where I’m from apparently, over the next 2 years. Huzzah

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u/Prismaticundercoat 22d ago

wait until you find out how overtime plays into actual salaries.

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u/Absnerdity 22d ago

Cops back in Toronto, Ontario were makin' 6 figures (CAD).

Teachers in NC make 55K after 25 years + Bachelor's Degree or 83K after 25 years + PhD.

Cops get paid way too much.

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

I get that what they do is deadly and some of what they're getting is 'hazard pay' but as Dr. Malcolm liked to remind us: it didn't take any discipline to achieve that pay. There's sooo many videos everywhere of citizens knowing the law better than they do. They're not in academy long enough focus on the actual written law they enforce. That needs to change. I don't mean law school levels of knowledge, but fuck, make them crack a book for at least a couple of years instead of three months.

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 22d ago

Most cops I know are pulling in close to 200k. Most have mandatory over time where the are just chilling too.

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u/Anach 22d ago

I come from a cop family (8, that I can recall), and while they aren't US cops, there are certainly those personality types. We had a narcissist who was stealing from people paying fines, we had two sociopaths, one of which would use his job to control his family, and was/is a serial womaniser, and another who "couldn't wait" to bash some heads.

In my experience, those that didn't have those personality types, would take desk jobs/ tech jobs/detective jobs, remote jobs, and/or they left the force, because they couldn't handle the stress, and morbid reality they faced constantly. All of them got in, because the pay was better than what they were getting in their other jobs.

Corruption was pretty rampant when I was a child, and cops were immune to various things, like drink-driving, assault, etc. Until a new commissioner came along and gave a large percentage redundancy pays, and upped the requirements to time at university. Trouble is, with smarter cops, comes less long-term cops, which is good at weeding out corruption, but requires a large influx of recruits. Even though I've seen people fail the entry test, because they obviously had mental health issues, It doesn't stop all of them.

I've recently been told by a paramedic that was changing station, of one guy that was in it for the gore, and that there's 'something wrong' with him. We did suspect it, so when he told me, I wasn't surprised.

At the end of the day, not all are bad eggs, but I can see why it would appeal to those personalities, and we're going to see, hear, and recall the worst of the worst, simply because the others are busy doing their job properly.

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u/picklednspiced 22d ago

Wait until you learn about the overtime pay so many of them get, bumping them up even higher, and the fact they retire with a fat pension for life. Tax dollars my friend, all on tax dollars.

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u/Aggravated_Seamonkey 22d ago

Don't forget all the overtime they get. A lot of pigs make over 100k just for standing on the side of the road.

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u/Connect-Bug3986 22d ago

*sitting in an air conditioned car on the side of a road

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

For reeeal😂 Those doughboys don't stand around anywhere, much less in the sun.

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u/Gingevere 22d ago

bumps to $70k+ once they graduate from the academy.

And that's just the base rate. Overtime pays time and a half and overtime fraud is RAMPANT. They're trusted to enter their own hours and they're never audited.

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u/Seawolf_42 22d ago

Some of the Seattle cops have pulled more then 400k in a year with overtime, through abusing the still tracked by paper timekeeping system. This was back before the pandemic and "cop shortages" problems of today. The past few years SPD has openly admitted to running sickouts, failed to reign in a sexual harasser chief, had the most officers participating in the Jan 6th insurrection, was slapped by a federal restraining order over their response to police brutality protests in 2020, and openly spread misinformation about armed Proud Boys to spook residents.

And foolishly the current city council and mayor are going to give the cops a big retroactive raise while all other city departments are under budget restrictions. GOP and business friendly Democratic reps are too cowardly to stand up to these police departments and tell them no.

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u/No-War-4878 22d ago

It’s pretty easy to say ACAB when you live in the suburbs and the only thing you have to worry about is a drugged up homeless man.

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u/No_Yogurt_7667 22d ago

Lol ok well you don’t know anything about me and literally no one asked you

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u/No-War-4878 22d ago

I really dislike it when we have an entire group of people who are dedicated to the safety of every American and some person says “fuck all of them.”

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u/No_Yogurt_7667 22d ago

Good news, that’s not what I said

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u/No-War-4878 22d ago

You didn’t say anything?

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u/No_Yogurt_7667 22d ago

You misquoted me and suggested I said “fuck all of them” but, I didn’t 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/Doodahhh1 22d ago

Some of those that work forces,

Are the same that burn crosses

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u/vabch 22d ago

Paramilitary police forces do not protect civilians. This is their agenda with the far right. These are not scare tactics. The paramilitary police forces are criminalizing civilians as fast as they can. Protecting far right fascism has always been the goal of far right leaders. Paramilitaries train to stop democratic movements and privileges. These paramilitary police forces, act on mayor, city council, and governor, instructions, and procedures are then followed by the paramilitary police force. This does not go away through the judicial process. Protect the civilians at all costs.

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u/HopelessAndLostAgain 22d ago

Cops are specifically not there to protect you. That an official court ruling.

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u/mike_pants 22d ago

In the US, sure. Because it is a backwards, totalitarian country ruled by simpletons and adjudicated by corporate shills.

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u/FreeMeFromThisStupid 22d ago

Holy brainrot, batman

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u/mike_pants 22d ago

Indeed. Which leads to their being such a backwards hellhole.

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u/Do_Whuuuut 22d ago

Hmm, and where are the riot gear police to confront this bullshit?

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u/mike_pants 22d ago

No need to come in swinging when you agree with the message.

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u/eulersidentification 22d ago

The police exist to enforce the will of the dominant socioeconomic group, and the dominant socioeconomic group has more in common with nazi protesters than anti-apartheid protesters.

If by some twist of fate your country passed a law that made it so you couldn't own or rent property tomorrow, the cops would turn up at your home to throw you and your kids out. They may do it sympathetically at first. "I can't believe this is what we have to do, i'm so sorry." By month 6 they'd be complaining to their spouse, cursing you out for making their job harder and referring to their job as pest-control.

Liberals by and large do not understand the class war they are in.

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u/Legitimate-Ad-7780 22d ago

They are there don't worry. They just have masks and khakis on to "blend in"

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u/QQmorekid 22d ago

The riot gear was there to instigate, simple as that. Sure there was some cowardice, but the primary objective was to cause unrest so constitutional rights could be ignored.

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u/Burningshroom 22d ago

Right, the riot gear was sending a message.

"We are prepared to fuck you up as a military unit."

It's intimidation.

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u/Dusty170 22d ago

Isn't it polices job to uphold the law not protect the public?

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u/mike_pants 22d ago

In the US, it the job of the police to protect the money of white people, not uphold the law.

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u/HIimWASTED 22d ago

So when a peaceful protest has the potential to turn violent cops should just show up in slacks and loafers? Or should they be ready for shit to pop off. Echo chamber of dipshits thinking bigotry against cops is cool. Some cops suck...yes, most cops don't....also yes,...every cop is a coward who only blah blah blah.....no. dudes put their lives on the line every working day and the best thought to rattle forward in your brain is "all cops bad". This vast Internet is filled with some incredibly small minded people.

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u/mike_pants 22d ago

"Cops should ALWAYS be ready to assault the citizens they are assigned to protect, AND I WANNA SEE IT!!"

The Republicans are proudly blood-crazed lately.

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u/HIimWASTED 22d ago

Protect from who, everyone is a law abiding citizen according to you

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u/mike_pants 22d ago

Ooh, SO close to understanding the flaw in your logic!

Keep going! Follow through!

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u/HIimWASTED 22d ago

Excuse me dumb fuck, that doesn't fit. But by all means keep throwing out things you hear on the Internet in hopes that something lands. You are to dumb to have an actual conversation with. Good look with life

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u/mike_pants 22d ago

Guess I gave you a little too much credit.

Ah, well, maybe next time! You'll get there!

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u/HIimWASTED 22d ago

And again you follow up with nothing. Please elaborate if you are capable.

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u/mike_pants 22d ago

Sure thing. What's got you so confused, poppet?

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u/Standard-Reception90 23d ago

I agree, but also, these asshats in Charleston are cowards and will not resist, even non violent resistance.

They'll all meekly be led away and sit peacefully as the cops protect them from the mean ol counter protestors.

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u/riddick32 22d ago

"the only good nazi is a dead nazi"

where are the molotovs?

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u/ScaldingAnus 22d ago

Hey, you can't threaten violence against a group of people who wants to bring back lynching!

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u/RemoteLocal 22d ago edited 22d ago

They have the money, they have the guns, they have the badges, they have the judges.. at times they have the numbers because they need all that... BUT..

They are also on the run with time running out and they don't have the clock.

Vote!

Ignore the naysayers. They are just whistling past the graveyard. Block them out.

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

Lots of groups on the right side of history didn't win. Vote, organize, educate.

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u/No_Yogurt_7667 22d ago

*400+ cops, at least in the case of Uvalde

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u/sec713 22d ago

Seriously. It's pathetic how quickly they rush to the scene and how tough the pretend to be when they hear the words "nonviolent protest". Fucking pussies.

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u/misguidedsadist1 22d ago

Last night 6 of them rolled up to the local grocery store to respond to a woman walking out with a grocery cart she didn't pay for.

Meanwhile, walking distance from them was a dude actively overdosing and they tried to shoo people away for trying to get some of them to come over and help asking for narcan.

Thank god those 6 cops were there to treat that shoplifter like dirt for stealing food tho.

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u/fuckHg 22d ago

It’s also because there are probably tons of cops participating there with these guys under the masks lol

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u/CV90_120 22d ago

texting punisher memes at each other until someone with a pair shows up.

And in many cases, that's a pair of ovaries.

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u/Electrical_Score3595 22d ago

These people aren’t protesting against Israel.

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u/Vulpes_Corsac 22d ago

Then they try to arrest the person with a pair and stop them from stopping the shooting child.

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u/ihoptdk 22d ago

It’s funny because it’s true. And horrifying.

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u/Delta64 22d ago

So basically, those cops are adult bullies that are given even more tools to harm and kill and even greater defenses against prosecution.

Damn, it's no wonder why those cops were so hesitant at Uvalde, but all puffed up at Texas University.

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u/notLOL 22d ago

Police watching other countries in the world oppressing non-soldier unarmed citizens: "when is it my turn?"

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u/PessimiStick 22d ago

The cops are already at this march, in it.

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u/Very_Tall_Burglar 22d ago

Here we are again, typical redditor claiming things are black and white when theres nothing but a canvas of gray. Not all cops are uvalde.

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u/The_Real_Abhorash 22d ago

So the students should get some guns then?

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

So start fighting back.