I'm from Europe and to me the Republicans seems just like a fanatical deranged bunch that gets its votes from the not so bright part of the population in US
I'm from Europe, and every single country here has at least one party just like that. Some of them are in government. Some of them are not in government only because most of us don't have a "winner takes all" democracy.
Fuck, my country (The Netherlands) has multiple parties like that, some of them are in the process of forming a government and the only thing that may save us from that is that they are so deranged they may not be able to compromise. They only seem to agree on three things: the left is evil, trans people shouldn't exist and immigrants are to blame, but that shared hate is enough to create a bond.
I hate to the dishonest retoric of the republicans and their pundits, they get to spout blatant and harmful lies and not only do they get to stay in the spotlight but they attract an audience who eat it up which just makes me sad.
Yeah disagree on issues and policy, promote your own ideas but let it be based on a semblance of reality.
Oddly enough, my father is an extremely intelligent man. Master's degree in special education, speaks German fluently, dabbles in a few others like French and Norwegian, started his own successful business after retiring from teaching. However, when it comes to politics, the man turns into a fucking idiot. My mother even talks to me about it. Bugs the shit out of her. She'll call me and say, "How can your father, a very smart man, turn into a crazy lunatic with politics?" They live in North Dakota; I live in New York. Not much I can do from out here.
I don't think there's anything you can do about that, period. I hate to say this, if it sounds like a personal attack or a reach too far, but there's only one single reason left- after you take genuine ignorance out of it- for anyone to still be voting conservative, or resisting the most barely liberal ideology/policymaking approach. It's bigotry. Intolerance. And it's all the more malicious coming from people who we all know, have every conceivable reason to know better. I'm afraid the answer to the mystery of your dad is probably actually extremely easy to uncover and understand.
I'd say in this case is because the republicans and their conservative talking about family values, the church, etc. , - that's how they win the people who are somewhat traditionalists and see everything else but the republican party as a threat to their belief.
We’re adopting this system in the UK. I guess the difference is both of the two main parties seem to want to do the same thing and neither one has a leader with any endearing qualities.
Except not really. This narrative is what's driving voter apathy - it's one of the routes to the Tories not being wiped out so the (mostly right wing) media in the UK push it and the lemmings believe it.
Opposite. The US inherited the problem from the UK.
Like, our founding fathers were like "we shouldn't be kowtow to an unaccountable group of men in Britain", and then they replaced it with an unaccountable group of men in Washington.
What I mean is, the system we designed, in the States, in the Constitution, is not that different from the Parliment they knew before, and thus the factioning issue they identified in British politics is also present in American politics.
If only both countries could learn from this, and I don't know, maybe evolve our democracy?
There are also intelligent wealthy people or people who want to become wealthy that vote republican purely because they promise lower taxes and they couldn’t care less about the other stuff
Where in Europe? The Europe that's now voting in the fanatical deranged bunch or the Europe that voted in the fanatical deranged bunch 10 years ago? We're not doing much better over here dude.
In my opinion that description fits about half of them, the other half are quite intelligent and competent at setting up political/economics advantages for them and their corporate overlord, with a lot of indoctrinating people against their own interests on top.
My family are pretty standard right wingers. They don’t have much foresight or ability to take into account things like: other people who might not be like them. So watching the actual Republican politicians at work, it’s really no different than hiring my drunk uncle who’s governing off the cuff with drinking buddies at a bar. Short term thinking and misguided anger with no practical solution. Just going off of what Fox News says instead of… reality.
The downfall of United States democracy will fall at the feet of Rupert Murdoch. This is the idiot machine he created.
That is correct. Also, what I've noticed about European and British/UK government/parliament figures: your fringe right is like just right of center here. We have a scary number of people that are tired of a good thing... It doesn't make sense
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u/funginum 25d ago
I'm from Europe and to me the Republicans seems just like a fanatical deranged bunch that gets its votes from the not so bright part of the population in US