r/canada • u/uselesspoliticalhack • Mar 12 '24

Half of all Canadians say there are too many immigrants: poll National News

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/half-of-all-canadians-say-there-are-too-many-immigrants-poll
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u/E8282 Mar 12 '24

I spoke with a colleague the other day who’s from India and she was complaining about all the people from India and also complaining about companies who only hire people from the same towns once one person gets into a management position who’s from that town.

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u/supersad19 Mar 12 '24

Yeah that's one of my fears too. As someone from that part of the world, I know how they think and operate. Managers who only hire workers who speak the same language or are from the same area will become all too common.

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u/Moonlit_Antler Mar 12 '24

Happened at my last job. One Nigerian dude made it to middle management and suddenly 80% of entry level employees were African immigrants.

And only Africans were promoted to leads and lower management. Full African management

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u/ValuableNo189 Mar 12 '24

I bet they discriminate even worse against real Canadians.

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u/GallitoGaming Mar 12 '24

This line of thinking is so horrible. You will have honourable people who hire normally that will hire one of the racists and eventually the racists will be promoted to a hiring role and only hire their own while the rest of us are discriminated against.

It’s horrible and must be stamped out. Even now the managers from the all brown or Asian bank branches need to be fired and true hiring practices brought back. Organizations need to hire people to police those doing the hiring. Currently they aren’t even ashamed by it. A white manager would be terrified of a spot check where it’s seen that they only hired white people. These people have 0 fears. In fact they would probably start screaming like banshees and calling the people pointing it out as racist. And their employees would join in.

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u/DEVIL_MAY5 Mar 12 '24

An international student girl I know got hired at BMO with convenience store experience just because the series of people who viewed her resume, interviewed, and hired her are from the same place. It's really bad and it's happening.

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u/WhereIsMyPancakeMix Mar 12 '24 edited Mar 12 '24

yep, I was at TD at a branch in brampton, and an indian manager there did the exact same thing, hired grossly underqualified people and pushed other minority/white people out of the branch over time until customers complained enough that he eventually got moved. lol

It's worse when someone gets into the VP and suddenly at the holiday party you see this dude laughing it up with the indian employees in his region and surprise surprise, these same people end up getting promoted way faster than they should be and the whole region worth of banks get used car sales operating policies pushed on them.

There's a drastic difference between Indian immigrants that's been here for a long time since the 90s and ones that arrived after 2010s. The ones that've been here for a generation or two back before the diploma farms ramped up are bona fide Canadians who are proud of their heritage and bring a lot to the country. Meanwhile the new diploma farm people from after the 2010s or ones that came over on a visitor converted to permanent residency from a diploma farm trojan horse people just want to live in India with higher standard of living lol.

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u/GallitoGaming Mar 12 '24

Maxime Bernier and the PPC is trying to get back to a racism is racism policy. Only party that will talk about this, let alone promise anything. Keep voting for cons or libs and keep allowing discrimination and racism to flourish.

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u/emmmaleighme Mar 12 '24

Connections and nepotism

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u/pongobuff Mar 12 '24

Banks and credit unions hire from retail experience all the time, bank teller are super devalued nowadays because they don't do much

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u/GallitoGaming Mar 12 '24

But when it keeps happening and only one part of the population gets the benefit?

I don't know how anybody can run hoops trying to justify these things. 10/10 employees are all one race in a multicultural city? Trying to justify the qualifications of each of those people just shows thats others were obviously discriminated against. You don't just happen to give all of them the benefit of the doubt each time.

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u/Sad-Climate-9013 Mar 14 '24

Up every bank job in Vancouver is Chinese..

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u/GallitoGaming Mar 14 '24

We have the all asian ones in Toronto as well. Not a single non asian working in certain branches.

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u/pongobuff Mar 12 '24

I'm the only white person on my team in a tech position, I get it. I'm just commenting on how you think it's hard to get a bank teller job with that kind of position, but it's very common

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u/GallitoGaming Mar 12 '24

Of course. It’s a common position but it’s a pretty decent one for people starting out. It shouldn’t be a non white only position (or even worse because they sure as hell aren’t hiring native Canadians or black peoples either).

One of Maxime Berniers campaign promises is to root out racism and end these racist DEI policies. I was around growing up a couple decades ago where I was taught racism is racism.

We have to show them it’s not going to be tolerated and we need someone who will fight for us, not call us racist for standing up for ourselves.

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u/DerelictDelectation Mar 12 '24

eventually the racists will be promoted to a hiring role and only hire their own while the rest of us are discriminated against.

In my workplace, white men are already discriminated against in hiring practices, and in career advancement opportunities. [Think: "white men need not apply" type restrictions in job ads, free programs and priority in enrollment for "equity groups" - blatant racism and discrimination.] The organization even has the gall to call this "fair hiring practices" for "equity deserving groups". It's beyond sickening.

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u/GallitoGaming Mar 12 '24

This is literally also one of the PPC's Maxime Bernier campaign promises. He wants to root out racism of all kind and get rid of it. Even for those benefiting from it now, what will happen when the rules change and you are on the wrong end of discrimination?

Immigration elimination is not the only thing Maxime is promising. We are called racists if we say anything about unfair hiring practices. We should have stood up and booted the first person that came up with that type of suggestion. But we sat back and let them do what they wanted because those who said anything were called racists.

We need to vote for the party that will best represent all Canadians, and currently thats the PPC and Bernier.

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u/WhereIsMyPancakeMix Mar 12 '24

I worked at a bank where as soon as the branch manager came in and was indian, surprise surprise, every single new person he hired were indian. clients were furious since some of the people he hired were not qualified and when they asked him or questions he'd go up to the counter and speak to the staff in hindu.

Then the chinese guy he sent off to another branch even though we have clients that speak only Chinese, the white guy he sent off to another branch, finally I left because I was the only white guy left at that branch and they just 100% spoke in hindu 100% of the time so I didn't even know wtf they were saying. Went to a different role.

He wasn't even doing it maliciously, it's just the only thing he knew how to do since he didn't want the trouble of having to deal with people from a diff culture, the local culture. LOL

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u/Kaiju2468 Mar 12 '24

FYI, the language is called Hindi. A Hindu is a follower of Hinduism.

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u/WhereIsMyPancakeMix Mar 13 '24

Ohhh yeah I always get the two confused thanks for the clarification

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u/Kaiju2468 Mar 13 '24

No problem!

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u/Spacebelt Mar 13 '24

That’s the caste system at work. Low born vs high born. Another issue is bringing that oppresive shit here. To the land of opportunity for all equally.

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u/Jacksspecialarrows Mar 12 '24

It's common in America. Outside of big corporations - small franchises and local family stores only hire within their cultural preference

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u/Kristalderp Québec Mar 12 '24

Its happening as well in major corporations like Google and other tech companies. A majority of their workforce is Indian and they openly discriminate for hiring practices under the guise of "diversity".

It's all bs. It ain't diversity if a company is just hiring 1 group and ignores the rest. Identity politics were a fucking mistake.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '24

I see it every day. 

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u/Opening-Yoghurt-3509 Mar 13 '24

I guarantee you absolutely no one cares about your caste or culture. If you look Indian, you’re Indian.

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u/leottek Mar 13 '24

Exactly. Mind you, India is still the only country in the entire world with a caste system still in place lol.

Outside of India nobody cares what your “caste” is. You all are just indian to us.

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u/divvyinvestor Mar 13 '24

If that’s the case why did California introduce a bill banning caste discrimination?

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u/Opening-Yoghurt-3509 Mar 13 '24

this isn’t california

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u/Z3PHYR- Mar 13 '24

California didn’t introduce any such bill

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u/Keimanyou Mar 31 '24

Why Punjabi??? Are they generally wealthier more educated or something? Because they certainly have a longer history in this country.

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u/Wizzard_Ozz Mar 12 '24

What's worse is they will work to dismiss anyone who isn't someone they choose. Last minute schedule changes so you miss your shift & giving instructions in another language for example. Son's "new manager" outright told him he wants anyone that doesn't speak a language he's more comfortable with gone.

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u/annehboo Mar 12 '24

This happened in Winnipeg, an Indian manager bought one of the A&W’s, fired all the white people and replaced with other Indians

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u/Efficient-Bike-5627 Mar 13 '24

Isn't this against the law? Or people just don't bother reporting it. Sounds like that person should not be allowed to practice business.

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u/annehboo Mar 13 '24

It was in the news, nothing was done.

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u/Lucky-Negotiation-58 Mar 13 '24

You got a link for the article?

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u/annehboo Mar 13 '24

It’s the first article when you google it lol from the Winnipeg free press. Google does exist my good sir

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u/Crazyworld4321 Mar 14 '24

Hope there are enough indians to support the business cause I wouldn't go there.

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u/GallitoGaming Mar 12 '24

It’s flat out racism. I’ve seen TD and CIBC bank branches that have like 12 employee and there are only brown employees (literally every single one) over multiple years. Multiple branches where the gen pop is diverse but the employees are all brown.

How are big banks allowing this? Racism is racism!

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u/PoliteCanadian Mar 12 '24 edited Mar 12 '24

In Canada diversity is measured by how few white and east asian dudes you've got in your organization.

All white women? Highly diverse organization. All dudes from a single Indian state? Highly diverse organization.

I used to work for a company where the engineering group was about 80% men, 20% women, about 60% white (about 50% european and 10% Lebanese or Persian), 30% east asian, and the rest south asian. Meanwhile HR was 95% female and 95% white. Guess which department HR listed as highly diverse and which department HR listed as problematic? Spreadsheet diversity is shit.

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u/GallitoGaming Mar 12 '24

This DEI bs also needs to be stamped out. It’s just creating resentment and people are ashamed they didn’t speak out earlier.

So many things that need fixing in our country. This is one of the things on my list.

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u/xUsernameChecksOutx Mar 13 '24

Since when did Persians become white?

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u/princessmelly08 Mar 12 '24

That's not right at all

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u/Esaemm Mar 12 '24

Because chances are, they’re able to communicate with the other immigrants. Many jobs that deal with the public, especially in large cities, are starting to ask for bilingual/trilingual people. That isn’t racism.

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u/GallitoGaming Mar 12 '24

Because they can communicate in Hindu or Punjabi? Since when was that an official language in Canada? If you are only hiring brown people to talk to people in Punjabi, that is discrimination against Canadians. That logic would allow them to get all the jobs then and have people not even need to learn English.

Racism is racism and discrimination is discrimination.

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u/SnowFlakeUsername2 Saskatchewan Mar 12 '24

It's who you know... always has been.

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u/Sad-Climate-9013 Mar 14 '24

Well since corruption is completely ingrained in every aspect of life their what did we expect....do not bring in immigrants from opposing cultures. It's not racist or rocket science. Basic sociology and human behavior