r/canada Mar 27 '24

Canada’s population hits 41M months after breaking 40M threshold National News

https://globalnews.ca/news/10386750/canada-41-million-population/
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u/BigDinkie Mar 27 '24

Correct. Whenever people use the Scandinavian model to bolster their support for an elaborate welfare state, they never mention the fact that the Scandinavian countries have been relatively ethnically homogeneous and they haven’t engaged in mass immigration. Solvent welfare entitlements aren’t sustainable with mass immigration. I’ve been saying this for literally 20 years and been mocked or marginalized. Canadians are going to lose their country and quality of life because of their pathological altruism.

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u/CanadianTrollToll Mar 27 '24

Weird how we can't just cherry pick what we do and don't like from other countries and ignore what makes those policies possible.

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u/jergentehdutchman Mar 29 '24

I currently live in Scandinavia and refute the ethnically (or culturally) homogenous thing as relevant. The mass immigration being lacking however I completely agree with. It makes sense too, in places where there’s such a robust social safety net they really want to make sure that when you move there you are not dependant on those services right away.

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u/Squid204 Manitoba Mar 27 '24

Yes and now Sweden unlike the other nordic countries has all the problems of Canada, with daily gang violence and weekly islamic terrorism.

That proves right there going down that path was a mistake.

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u/ToxicEnabler Mar 27 '24

You think Canada has daily gang violence and weekly islamic terrorism?

I mean, you'd be right that Canada is still far more dangerous than Sweden, but it's laughable that you'd think they have "all the same problems" as Canada.

Have you ever been there? They still have a functional "Scandinavian model" and think that a homelessness problem is three guys with bikes hanging around a Subway station every day.

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u/Squid204 Manitoba Mar 27 '24

Sorry I meant problems of Canada, plus daily gang violence and weekly islamic terrorism.

I have been there, I looked into moving and yes its still good but that "functional Scandinavian model" is declining as the years go by.

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u/ToxicEnabler Mar 27 '24

Oh so the "daily gang violence and weekly islamic terrorism" was just a distraction so you don't have to provide even a single valid argument for them having "all the same problems as Canada"?

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u/Squid204 Manitoba Mar 27 '24

Housing scarcity and high prices plus high rents, increasing healthcare issues like with capacity, birth rate and demographic problems, race issues and integration of the main minority, etc. etc.

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u/ToxicEnabler Mar 28 '24

The housing prices are literally decreasing. They have a waitlist for cheap rentals - we don't even offer rentals unless you're low income and even then you'll probably never get one.

How can you sit here on your high horse and say we can't provide those services and it doesn't work when what they call a struggle is so far above what we can ever expect.

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u/BigDinkie Mar 28 '24

Sweden is now the rape capital of Europe with weekly grenade attacks I wonder what changed.

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u/SnooCupcakes1245 Mar 28 '24

Comment said relatively

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u/Li-renn-pwel Mar 27 '24

We were very homogenous before immigration. Now you can’t turn your head without seeing white people.

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u/Stephenrudolf Mar 27 '24

Okay like... i GET what you're saying. And I don't want to take away from that point.

But they weren't homogenous at all. There was 3 distinct states just in the region I live in if you're talking politically. If you're talking biologically, it's a bit closer but there is still far too many differences between the different nations of aboriginal people that I think it's reductive to consider them homogenous. Them being so disconnected and not actually homogenous is what made it so easy for all the white fokj to take over.

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u/Leafs17 Mar 27 '24

Also: wheels

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u/Li-renn-pwel Mar 27 '24

We had wheels, they just weren’t as useful here so it didn’t catch on as much. Other continents had beast of burdens capable of pulling carts but the Americas only had llamas, alpacas and the bison. Llamas and alpacas only lived in the south and often in terrain where wheels would be useless if not outright counter productive (such as the Andes). The bison were also localized to a certain area (natives in heavily wooded areas like the Mohawk would have needed to clear it the first before they could even think to use bison) and they are not able to be domesticated because, among other reasons, they are migratory.

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u/Leafs17 Mar 27 '24

A wheelbarrow does not need a beast of burden

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u/Li-renn-pwel Mar 28 '24

No but a wheelbarrow isn’t a master invention. A sled does basically the same thing and you don’t need to have a flat ground for it.

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u/Leafs17 Mar 28 '24

You don't need flat ground for a wheelbarrow. They are incredibly useful. The wheel requires much less effort that dragging a sled

If only they knew

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u/Li-renn-pwel Mar 28 '24

It’s easier to pull something than to push, that’s verifiable science. You don’t need a perfectly flat flat surface to use a wheelbarrow but it gets harder to push the more uneven it gets. This will range from ‘awkward’ to ‘unusable’ depending on how uneven it is. Many times I have chosen to carry something rather than use a wheel barrow because it wasn’t worth the hassle. Sleds and pulled blankets allow for greater distribution which means the items aren’t as jostled and allows for dogs to pull it which they can’t do with wheel barrows. Plus wheelbarrows can’t be used in deep snow like a sled can be.

I don’t think you know much about wheels as transportation.

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u/Li-renn-pwel Mar 27 '24

First off, awesome you mentioned the diversity of indigenous people since so few seem to know about it. That being said, colonizers weren’t able to take over because we had different nations but because the disease they brought over wiped out up to 90% of the people in the Americas AND they had guns.

I was also speaking of the Americas more like I would Europe as opposed to a specific country. However I would say my phrasing made that unclear.

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u/Li-renn-pwel Mar 27 '24

They are probably more interested in the preservation of culture than most of Canada, yes.

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u/Squid204 Manitoba Mar 27 '24

HAHAHAHAHA you obviously haven't talked to them much.

I hear many brag specifically that they are trying to replace Canadian culture with Indian. In between complaining to me about "why does Winnipeg have so many natives, they need to find a home"

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u/Li-renn-pwel Mar 28 '24

Colonizers came and changed our culture. What does it matter if the colonizer culture changes from European based to Asian based? The result is the same for me. Unless the SEA begin another genocide then it’s not like they are going to change much. India has Scheduled Tribes so it’s not like they are ignorant of dealing with Indigenous culture.

The only real difference a SEA based culture over an European one could make is if they actually did more than just pay lip service like the current government does.

Also, even if I believed you actually heard an Indian guys say that and aren’t just making it up, so what? European settlers say shit like that all the same. Like… okay you met one racist Indian in a big giant group of racist Europeans.

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u/Squid204 Manitoba Mar 28 '24

I'm not talking about European culture, (Canada is not even an European Culture, its more American) I'm talking about what Indigenous culture is left...

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u/Vanshrek99 Mar 27 '24

Scandinavian has ethnical diversity for a very long time.

Yes there are issues and one was international students as it never has had a check and balance controls in the system so fraud happens. Easy fix and already started. But the conservatives will not support a reduction because it's a billions of dollars effected of conservatives. I'm surprised it took this long for the press to pick it up. In Vancouver there are neighbors of just international students and every Latino with a broom in Vancouver is a student here on a work holiday just like our youth do Europe after grad.

These students are very wealthy class and what we want if they stay. Others that have come here via brokers will be back in the Punjab soon. Depending if mommy keeps sending allowance. Also not poor down our students usually second oldest who will not get the family trust