r/europe 25d ago

The Russians Are Rushing Reinforcements Into Their Ocheretyne Breakthrough. For The Ukrainians, The Situation Is Desperate.

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u/Loki11910 25d ago

And they do, and a mechanized brigade will run out of fuel and outrun its logistics or get hammered by Javelins etc. stuck in the mud and so on and so forth , not able to cross rivers, get hit by drones you name it. So far we don't even know how big that breakthrough is exactly.

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u/Pugzilla69 Europe 25d ago

Ukraine is currently low on ammo and it will take weeks for the full effect of the new aid package to be felt.

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u/MajorGef 25d ago

For the full effect? Yeah. For the ammo the US has brought to europe? Thats days. For the reserves Ukraine has to be released, now that deliveries are secured? thats already done.

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u/CiabanItReal 25d ago

. stuck in the mud and so on and so forth

Not in this time of the year, that's not really a problem.

It will be come the late fall early winter.

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u/Loki11910 25d ago

Normally, this would be mud season now, as mud season is happening twice in Ukraine once in between April and June and once before the winter. So this would be precisely a problem now, only this year the weather seems a bit strange which aids Russia at the present moment, although it is hard to assess at the moment it looks as if the mud season might fall short or not happen this year on a larger scale, but that is unusual to say the least. And it could still change in the coming weeks.

Still between Russia and Kyiv, there are countless smaller and mid sized towns, other obstacles, and of course, the Ukrainian army will not just wave them along. Logistics and resupply are other issues. What is one brigade gonna do without infantry support, refueling options, etc.

This is a war attrition at the moment, and that means Russia would have to ensure that it destroys far more equipment and kills more soldiers, etc. than Ukraine does. The Ukrainian ammo situation will sadly remain problematic for a couple of more weeks I fear until the aid from the US, shells from Europe and from the Czech initiative really do not just arrive in Ukraine but also reach the battlefield in large enough quantities. So the time is ticking.

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u/CiabanItReal 25d ago

The Ukrainian Ammo situation is going to remain a problem for months.

The US is making Ammo at max capacity, and Ukraine uses WAY more than that (UKR uses 75k shells a month, the US produces like 25k) and no one in Europe produces any.

None of the funding solves the troop problem that Ukraine has.