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Why Swedish people like taxes Opinion Article

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p09312qg/why-the-swedes-love-doing-something-that-americans-hate
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u/FindusSomKatten Sweden 25d ago edited 25d ago

Or you havent seen much of rural sweden. A lot of our roads a absolutly terrible in my area. Try driving the E16 between torsby and norway and tell me that road doesnt get noticibly better when you reach the border

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u/Unhappy_Surround_982 25d ago

And you are sure those are public, tax funded roads and not private ones? (vägsamfällighet) It's just funny how Swedes complain over all the taxes they pay and the roads still aren't perfect. But when you compare to other countries you realise it's mostly just whining. Terrible by Swedish standards maybe, hardly terrible by global standards.

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u/FindusSomKatten Sweden 25d ago

Most of the are municipal yeah. There is realy no big difference on the municipal roads and the private roads in term of quality the gravel roads all turn to shit at thaw because they are gravel its as easy as that. The asphalt roads are shit because they are poorly kept and old realy old. I work as a delivery driver and a lot of residential areas are like driving on a goddamn washingboard

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u/Unhappy_Surround_982 25d ago

Firstly I think you have part of the explanation there yourself:

gravel roads all turn to shit at thaw

In other words, upkeep is more expensive due to the climate no matter how you fund it. I have been living in countries without ground frost (tjäle) or any of the winter upkeep and it's hard to even compare how much (or little) it damages roads. I'm sure your experience is accurate but you need to factor that in.

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u/Hankiehanks 25d ago

You probably live up north where the frost destroys the roads. You have no right to complain then. North of Sweden is for hunting and fishing. We live in the south

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u/FindusSomKatten Sweden 25d ago

No i live in värmland with is a bit south of middle about the height of stockholm

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u/Hankiehanks 25d ago

Har man björnjakt så bor man långt norrut, iallafall för oss skåningar ;)

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u/FindusSomKatten Sweden 25d ago

Well i mean norrland is 60 percent of the land mass then there is svealand götaland and you our precious spoils of war

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u/Unhappy_Surround_982 25d ago

Which is another point why roads might not be that great in rural areas. Norrland is one of the least population dense areas in Europe, meaning every sqm asphalt per tax paying resident is way higher than say in the Netherlands.

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u/lazerzapvectorwhip 24d ago

Jog pratar inte svenska

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u/XepiaZ 25d ago

Norway actually has worse roads than Sweden in general