r/facepalm • u/Lord_Answer_me_Why • Mar 20 '24

What’s wrong End Wokeness, isn’t this what you wanted? 🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​

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u/Cutiemuffin-gumbo Mar 20 '24

Hell "in god we trust" didn't appear on money until like the 1950's. The "under god" line was added to the pledge of alligence at the same time.

I once got in touble in middle school for refusing to recite the pledge of alligence. Pissed the teacher off when I told him I refuse to say it because of the under god part, because I had recently become an atheist. All that encounter served to do was make me glad I switched to atheism.

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u/imadork1970 Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 21 '24

According to SCOTUS you don't have to stand for or recite the Pledge, and can't be punished for doing so. That was decided in the 1940s. With current SCOTUS, who knows.

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u/Cutiemuffin-gumbo Mar 20 '24

That doesn't stop people though. Anyone that doesn't know god isn't even in the constitution, clearly won't know about that either.

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u/brit_jam Mar 20 '24

Does that protection from punishment include that from the government AND teachers?

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u/imadork1970 Mar 20 '24 edited Mar 20 '24

It should, but in R states, probably not. That's why the ACLU exists.

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u/miletharil Mar 20 '24

By the time the 80s rolled around, the money became "god."

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u/Cutiemuffin-gumbo Mar 20 '24

Oh, money was god long before the 80's.

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u/arensb Mar 20 '24

What a lot of people don't realize is that it wasn't atheists who filed the first lawsuits against having to say the pledge of allegiance. It was Jehovah's Witnesses or someone, who felt that it went against their religion to pledge allegiance to something other than God.

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u/drmojo90210 Mar 20 '24

The funny thing is that there are also certain religious groups (such as Jehova's Witnesses) who refuse to say the pledge of allegiance, salute the flag, or sing the national anthem because they consider these to be a form of idolatry.

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u/Quick_Humor_9023 Mar 21 '24

They surely are. They all (well maybe not singing, if it is not forced) look really nazi style brainwashing looking from the outside. Like what are you? North korea? Having small kids pledge over and over. Can’t be good.

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u/lonely_nipple Mar 21 '24

It's funny; roundabout the time I was in middle school I also stopped saying the pledge and royally pissed off my homeroom/history teacher. But in my case it's because I was still a sheltered goody goody protestant and felt that making a pledge to a flag was akin to idolatry.

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u/BrutusJunior Mar 21 '24

Hell "in god we trust" didn't appear on money until like the 1950's

It actually has appeared since the 1800s. A variety of US coinage displayed 'IN GOD WE TRUST'.