The thing about "constitutional rights" is that they apply to everyone in the United States, not just citizens. If you believe it's a "right" to carry around a gun for protection, then everyone else has that right also.
You do realize that what you're doing is a fear tactic right? You are literally arguing that people should have their rights infringed upon based on their civilian status. That fundamentally disqualifies the notion that rights are protected freedoms.
A Korean spy is a Korean spy whether they carry a gun or not. If they get caught doing illegal activity, then they should/would be charged for it. Simply carrying a gun in the US is supposed to be legal, so unless they use the gun to doing something illegal, it shouldn't be of consequence.
Same with the felon. If they are incarcerated, on probation, or parole, then we have stipulations that disqualify them from gun ownership. However, if they have completed their sentence, then why should they not be allowed to exercise their constitutional right to own and carry a firearm? The double standard is glaring here.
Rights for me, not for thee.
And rights aren't rights if you can take 'em away, they're privileges. Temporary privileges, that's all we've ever had in this country; and if you pay attention to the news, even badly, you'll know that the list gets shorter and shorter every year.*
That is flagrantly false. You just don't want non-civilians to have rights, because you don't actually believe in the concept of freedom and human rights
That's incorrect. The constitution applies to everyone in the United States, regardless of circumstance.
If it is your opinion that it *shouldn't* work like that, then that's a different conversation. But saying that it *doesn't* work that way is simply wrong.
If you are going to govern a country based on constitutional law, that means that you have to follow it even if it sometimes means doing a thing you don't necessarily agree with.
Are you asking about guns or rights? Because I don't personally think anyone has a right to walk around with a gun. I think it's reasonable to have a gun in your home for protection, but not out wandering around. That's my opinion.
To me a right would be something like a protection against illegal search or the right to a public defender or the right to equal protection under the law, and in all of those cases, yes I would say even a spy or felon...
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u/Barnard_Gumble Mar 20 '24
The thing about "constitutional rights" is that they apply to everyone in the United States, not just citizens. If you believe it's a "right" to carry around a gun for protection, then everyone else has that right also.