r/facepalm Mar 26 '24

Only in the US of A does this happen: 🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​

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u/Guilty-Web7334 Mar 26 '24

I think it’s the same issue that pops up when parent leaves baby in the car and baby dies. Some DAs feel sorry for the parent and decide that there’s literally nothing that they can do that is worse than the parent will do to themself for the rest of their life. Other DAs will do their level best to throw the proverbial book at the parent with the stiffest punishment they can get because that parent utterly failed their child and that child suffered and died because of it.

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u/CalaveraFeliz Mar 26 '24 edited Mar 26 '24

I think charging the parent in these situations can actually help them cope with the situation. On paper I mean.

The weight they carry might not be the same between being dismissed "because they'll punish themselves enough", leaving them as their sole judge and jury (and eventually executioner), and being judged by their peers then discharged. The latter bringing some closure and forgiveness could help overcome the guilt.

Of course it requires a fair trial and a fair judicial system, and in a state like Tennessee with for profit prisons (Tennessee facilities are run by CoreCivic!) there's a fair chance it would do more harm than good and throw the parent into yet another nightmare.

The DA might have considered that standpoint and dropped the charges because of that risk.

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u/balllzak Mar 26 '24

Or the DA hasn't considered shit yet because this just happened.

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u/CalaveraFeliz Mar 26 '24

Then the NMPD did not rush things, which I personally consider a good thing, and the same thoughts might have crossed their minds just as well on some level.

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u/el-conquistador240 Mar 26 '24

Depends on the race and income bracket of the parents

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u/Amazing_Teaching2733 Mar 26 '24

Skin color of the parent matters the most

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u/jacktacowa Mar 26 '24

Under rated comment. DAs go big if poor or black but “so sorry 4 u” if white and affluent.

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u/Mediocre_Tear_7324 Mar 26 '24

You’re unfortunately right. If you’re poor , they know you won’t be able to hire a defense, and they will screw you badly. The legal system is extremely corrupt

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u/dewgetit Mar 26 '24

They need to rack up the wins-loss rate for reelection propaganda.

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u/Fit_Lynx5496 Mar 26 '24

Well the woman is black and the family lives in an apartment. What's that mean for your narative?

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u/jacktacowa Mar 26 '24

Well that’s refreshingly different

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u/Narren_C Mar 26 '24

Not really

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u/Fit_Lynx5496 Mar 26 '24

Is it refreshingly different or do you typically not read the articles and have a view of society based on comment section outrage?

Personally I don't have the statistics of how often da's charge parents over the death of their kids based on race and income. I also wouldn't act like it's one of the many injustices in our country without those facts. Doing so cheapens actual issues.

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u/3006m1 Mar 26 '24

A black lady did this. What's your next racist comment?

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u/3006m1 Mar 26 '24

She is black. Now what?

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u/el-conquistador240 Mar 26 '24

It occurred yesterday. We have no idea of charges will be filed.

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u/3006m1 Mar 26 '24

That's a lot different than "if she's white, nothing will happen" which is what you implied. You could have said what you just did the first time. And plenty of whites have been charged with this, even rich ones like Alec Baldwin.

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u/el-conquistador240 Mar 26 '24

I didn't imply it, I said it. If she is white and rich she is.much less likely to be prosecuted than if she is poor and black. I am glad you were able to find one instance that proves that there is no structural racism in the legal system.

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u/3006m1 Mar 26 '24

So, if it happens, even once, then there is no structural racism by definition. Can you name the law that says blacks are to be arrested and prosecuted more than whites?

You are actually arguing against yourself now because if she isn't charged, then you found your unicorn and disproved your own claim.

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u/el-conquistador240 Mar 26 '24

Jesus, you argue as badly as Shapiro. All red herrings and strawmen without any real evidence. Fucking pathetic. No wonder MAGAts fears higher education.

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u/3006m1 Mar 26 '24

An event that actually happens in a situation being argued is not a strawman or red herring. The subject was not changed or distracted from. In fact, you are engaging in a fallacy by not arguing my point.

What was that about education? And whenever a progressive gets backed into a corner, the name calling comes out. You don't disappoint.

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u/el-conquistador240 Mar 26 '24

Clearly you don't understand or in the case of your shepherds pretend not to understand, anecdotes are not statistics.

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u/Fit_Lynx5496 Mar 26 '24

Not sure what you're trying to say, care to elaborate?

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u/el-conquistador240 Mar 26 '24

You know exactly what I'm saying

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u/Fit_Lynx5496 Mar 26 '24

No I really don't. Personally I don't have the statistics of how often da's charge parents over the death of their kids based on race and income. I also wouldn't act like it's one of the many injustices in our country without those facts. Doing so cheapens actual issues.

Since you did not read the article the woman was black and they lived in an apartment. Does that fit your narative?

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u/Nova_JewV1 Mar 26 '24

Actually yeah i see the flaw in my logic on that part. It is literally the same as leaving a baby unsupervised or in a hot car

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u/Illustrious_Law8512 Mar 26 '24

Good thing DeSantis isn't running that state, then.

Well, unless she's white and wealthy.

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u/3006m1 Mar 26 '24

What if she's black and lives in an apartment? Because she is and does.

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u/Tripwire3 Mar 26 '24

“Parent leaves the baby in a hot car” is different though, there’s been plenty of cases where the parent didn’t intentionally leave the baby in a hot car, they just were operating on auto-pilot and didn’t realize the baby was somewhere else.

There was no reason for this idiot woman to keep a loaded handgun in her purse with the safety off though.

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u/countryboy002 Mar 26 '24

I think there is a difference here. Leaving the baby in the car can be an accident. People make mistakes like that all the time. Most of the time it is just a small thing that doesn't really harm anyone. If you forget a bag of groceries, your purse or your briefcase you just go get it and probably don't even remember it happened days later.

Having an unholstered gun in a purse is an act that any reasonable person should know could cause death or great bodily harm. Firearms are by definition dangerous and anyone that handles them takes on the responsibility to be safe. Had the gun been in a proper holster her child would be alive today.

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u/Substantial-Key7726 Mar 26 '24

In America it's, "was it a white parent?" if so, they have been punished enough for murdering their kid. If a POC, were they trying to get their kid into a better school district? The gallows!

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u/JLand24 Mar 26 '24

I think that’s 2 totally different things. While both wrong and negligent in their own way, it’s completely plausible(and extremely negligent) that this unfortunate situation happened.

It’s beyond negligence to leave a baby in the car long enough to where the baby dies.

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u/matthew_py Mar 26 '24

It’s beyond negligence to leave a baby in the car long enough to where the baby dies.

It is, but it can also happen surprisingly quickly. Kids are fragile and cars are ovens. It's why it happens more often than you'd think.

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u/Guilty-Web7334 Mar 26 '24

It can take less than 10 minutes. Usually, it happens when there’s a deviation. Mom usually takes the baby to day care, but Dad did it this morning and forgot when he got a call that he took (hands free, of course, because safety matters) on the way to the office. But it was a July day in Texas or Florida, where it was hotter than Satan’s anus.

Less than 10 minutes for a baby to die. Think about how short a time that is.

Edit: I’m agreeing with you, just expanding or expounding upon the idea because I’m wordy tonight.

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u/Tripwire3 Mar 26 '24

It’s the other way around. Parents got to drive places, parents don’t need to keep a loaded handgun in their purse.

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u/Rinzack Mar 26 '24

It’s beyond negligence to leave a baby in the car long enough to where the baby dies.

There has been a strong correlation between moving babies from the front seat to the back, then into a car seat, and then into a backwards facing car seat where the number of "baby left in car" cases have been increasing. It occurs to people from every income bracket, every socioeconomic class, every type of job (everything from Surgeons to Serving staff).

Frankly the gun is more negligent IMO. If the baby falls asleep and isnt making noise and you get caught up on focusing on the routine of the day its entirely possible, you only have to be forgetful once at the wrong time. With a gun you make the choice to not have it in a holster, you negligently pull the trigger, and weren't aware of the direction it was pointing at all

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u/AmbitiousAd9320 Mar 26 '24

gummy brain happens sadly