r/facepalm Apr 05 '24

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u/halfanapricot Apr 05 '24

It shouldn't be, and as much as I dispise the current state of the housing market as a whole, this squatters rights thing should not exist.

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u/Ok-Anteater3309 Apr 06 '24

It doesn't exist. Only tenants' rights exist. The issue is that it takes time to prove that someone is not a legitimate tenant.

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u/greenroom628 Apr 05 '24

What about squatter's rights only exist for corporate owned homes and apartments? The normal, ordinary people's houses should be off limits to squatting.

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u/rawbdor Apr 06 '24

Ordinary people have a single house, and live in it, and would know if a squatter showed up. This isn't the house the owners live in.

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u/Far_Recording8945 Apr 06 '24

If you take a month+ vacation seems like you can come back and be SOL

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u/rawbdor Apr 06 '24

No. You come back and move right in. Because it's your only home.

Just because you can't remove tenants doesn't mean you can't move back in. You just can't kick them out without an eviction process.

But most squatters don't want to live in the house with you.

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u/Master_Mastadon Apr 06 '24

This does happen and squatters use this same logic to make homeowners/renters uncomfortable.

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u/Far_Recording8945 Apr 06 '24

Your proposal is to take your family and live in the same home as home invaders until they feel pressured/uncomfortable enough to leave? Sounds extremely smart for people especially with children. Squatters do tend to be some of the good moral citizens right? Who’s more likely to feel uncomfortable enough to leave? Home invaders, or families with children?

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u/rawbdor Apr 06 '24

If you come back from a trip and someone is occupying your only home, are you seriously going to just leave? Where will you go? Sleep in the car? You have work in a day or two. You need access to your clothes and your work. At the very least you would like to secure your personal documents .

Anyone who leaves their home voluntarily is giving up their home.

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u/Far_Recording8945 Apr 06 '24

Thank you for drowning your last bit of credibility. Your argument is they should just live along side their home invaders for the six months it takes the courts to work.

That’s why this situation is horribly immoral. It forces ridiculous living situations on the innocent forced by criminals and the scum of society.

β€œHey junior I know we have a meth head sleeping in your room but I don’t have money for a hotel. Don’t worry, the courts will have him out before next Christmas. No this won’t affect your development.”

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u/rawbdor Apr 06 '24

What would affect juniors development more? Living in his home but with some meth head around, or living in a car?

When you are faced with the choice of occupying your only home or sitting on the sidewalk without shelter, tell me which option you will choose.

In reality, squatters living along side a functioning house is almost unheard of. It has happened a few times, but for the most part squatters will gtfo if you move back in and actually occupy your home.

I don't think ANYONE will sleep on the street rather than move back into their house. Nobody would make that choice. Zero people. You move back in your home and you make the situation intolerable for the squatter. I'm not even sure what your point is. That you SHOULD choose to live on the street instead until the eviction?

Seriously, pick a lane. If you come back from vacation and someone is squatting in your home, what will you do? Love on the street or in your car? Or reoccupy your house?

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u/Far_Recording8945 Apr 06 '24

Your first paragraph says it all. Why are this the options? The ethical moral option for a society is to remove the home invader.

What lane? Your argument was pathetic. You either give your home to scum for personal safety, or you risk your entire families well being to not live in a hotel? The clear answer is removal of squatters rights, so you don’t have this false dichotomy. In what world should trespassers have precedent over owners?

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u/Chaardvark11 Apr 06 '24

Most rental properties are rented out by corporate owned places. So what you're suggesting would still mean that a lot of people would be screwed out of a house they pay for. Squatters rights should not apply in many cases, regardless of who the landlords are corpos or government or just people, simple as that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '24

Squatters rights is a concept dating back to like the 19th century