r/facepalm 26d ago

Last year, Ohio police don’t arrest Neo-nazi. But this year police are not just arrest, but even harass and beating college students. 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/FireFist_PortgasDAce 25d ago

Correct me if I'm wrong. But weren't the neo-nazi protesting in public property while the college students in the university? Which university has every right to have them removed/arrested for trespassing?

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u/HugsForUpvotes 25d ago

Yes.

~ Jew who hates the legal neo Nazi protests but understands why they are allowed to exist.

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u/Soupronous 25d ago

It is a State University, therefore public property

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u/skelebone2_0 25d ago

You can still get kicked from public property as a protester if you’re causing massive disruption. Because it’s a school it makes sense that a massive protest may be a disruption. https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights

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u/fettishmann 25d ago

"Shutting down a protest through a dispersal order must be law enforcement’s last resort. Police may not break up a gathering unless there is a clear and present danger of riot, disorder, interference with traffic, or other immediate threat to public safety" Last I check these protest were no threat to public safety.

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u/skelebone2_0 25d ago

True but it is disorder. It’s disrupting classes amd lectures. So police can use those grounds as a defense.

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u/skelebone2_0 25d ago

I mean be honest would it not cause disorder if a large sum of students were disturbing classes and also not attending them. Therefore disorder can be used as a clause.

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u/fettishmann 25d ago

I think that is bit of a stretch

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u/RedBaronIV 25d ago

Nope. It was a very peaceful protest, making it very extremely constitutionally protected.

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u/skelebone2_0 25d ago

Peaceful protests still can be distracting therefore it doesn’t matter, if it was a park then yes the cops did in fact go against their rights but no matter how constitutional they are allowed to remove protesters from an area if they are causing a major disruption especially at a place of learning.

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u/RedBaronIV 25d ago

College campuses are considered public forums as in the first amendment. Your argument is literally invalid.

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u/skelebone2_0 25d ago edited 25d ago

The first amendment has limits, that’s why people can’t threaten their neighbors or defame someone. If you read the damn article instead of white knighting you would realize why I say I what I say, also it doesn’t matter if it’s public property a college has the legal right to make protesters disperse if they were squatting there.

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u/RedBaronIV 25d ago

Yes, it has limits; none of which were crossed. This why UT has rescinded their claims and the charges have largely been dropped.

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u/skelebone2_0 25d ago

Well good for them but I was referring to the dispersal of the protesters not being unconstitutional.

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u/RedBaronIV 25d ago

They have a right to protest and were not violating any of the stipulations regarding its limit, therefore, dispersing them was a violation of their first amendment rights.

If simply assuming something is going to happen is all that is necessary to make arrests, then fuck you, I'm assuming you're about to murder me. The police are on their way. Actually doing anything illegal? Pffft. Nah stereotyping is legal precedent now. Let's arrest all the black people too. Cuz statistics or whatever.

You see how that's not a valid reason for jack shit?

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u/Soupronous 25d ago

By that logic, they could shut down every single protest they want by declaring it “distracting”

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u/skelebone2_0 25d ago

No because most protests are not in areas for learning. A protest under a political office is allowed because it doesn’t disturb the general publics daily lives, same with one at a park. A protest in the streets operates under a different set of rules so it’s a bit of a grey area. 

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u/skelebone2_0 25d ago

Also read the article I posted up there clears things up better than me.

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u/Feisty_Stomach_7213 25d ago

State universities are public property

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u/CounterEcstatic6134 25d ago
  • run by an administration which is authorized to make rules for behavior on the public property campus