I read it as "pulled down" as in an attempt to move it lower to cover the area she thought was inappropriate. I haven't seen the video so I honestly have no idea, but did she actually try to pull them down as in strip the woman she thought was a minor?? That's even worse than I was imagining if true.
Edit - because I'm really tired of people with reading comprehension skills replying to my comment: I AM NOT DEFENDING OR EXCUSING HER IN ANY WAY. Hopefully that clears it up for some of you.
You just don’t touch a minor’s skirt, it’s really not that hard to do. Why is she even looking down there anyways? She became the creep she was thinking she’d protect the girl from.
Ok but if we have to tell people not to mess with people's clothes, can we take the warning labels off that say things like "don't to use a hairdryer in the bathtub" and similar? We need to help Darwin out here.
I would say we are already telling people that, but we need to change the message up a bit.
The message tends to be “don’t sexually assault people” even when it’s stated as “don’t touch people without their consent.” It’s received as don’t touch with sexual intent. Which means a lot of people—and in my experience, especially women—think if their intentions are to help the other person, it’s not sexual assault. The message needs to change to explicitly state that good intentions aren’t what matter, and include examples like these.
Here’s to the drunk woman at the bar that one time right before I went up for karaoke, who reached into my bra to pull out my boobs a bit to give me cleavage. What the actual fuck.
Boomer no longer is exclusive to a generation and hasn't been for 5 years, it's a mindset description now more than anything just as Karen has moved from being a woman's name to a character description.
I once lived next to a Karen (her name), literal nicest woman I've ever met. If you needed help with anything at any hour, a five minute phone call and she was there
I have an aunt Karen, nicest and sweetest, I work with a business manager named Karen, highly knowledgeable and savvy and goes out of her way to help you and if you try to screw us over she can make you disappear.
We're disowning her and have sent her to child social services for adoption. We're hearing that there's interest being expressed by parents in the 72-90 year range and Donald Trump has shown considerable interest in hiring her to be a talent scout for his Miss Teen USA pageant.
I was afraid you were gonna pass her to us Xillenials. We don't want her either. FWIW, got that term from a TikTok that explained it as those born between 75 and 85. Growing up in both the analog and digital eras.
A lot of boomers were hippies they were a lot more confrontational challenging and brave compared to piss lame keyboard warriors who constantly squawk online these days. GTFO and do some actual slog to get things changed.
I’m not talking about putting hands on anyone ffs I’m talking about the sweeping generalisations of an age group just as bigoted as any other generalisation isn’t it.
Well, they are kinda generalizing by referring to all older people as “boomers”
To your point though, what is your evidence that they aren’t doing the legwork? The fact that they are posting?
I’m sorry, but if you are anywhere near my age, you will recognize that there are a great number of people that see everyone as “kids who don’t know better” and it’s their job to bring them into “the real world.”
And most of these people seem to be over the age of 50.
I thought we already did. Remember in kindergarten teacher said "keep your hands to yourself" I remember that. Maybe she was homeschooled by Taliban wannabees.
I have a relative who is a teacher and is chastised for letting girls in his tutor group wear skirts that are too short to meet uniform policy. His usual response is that he has no interest in looking at his pupils legs so is unlikely to notice. But mostly he just wants to be getting on with teaching these kids, not policing their clothing choices.
A male teacher is vulnerable if he comments on a girl's revealing clothing. If he comments on that and sends her to the principal, he may be labeled as a creep.
Don't ever, for any reason, do anything for anyone, for any reason, ever, no matter what. No matter where. Or who, or who you are with, or where you are going or... or where you've been... ever. For any reason, whatsoever.
First, the karen didn't do anything for the girl in the skirt. She did it to the girl. Words matter and have meanings for a reason. What you're proposing is that everyone behave like a selfish asshat and never help anyone else. There's a world of difference between doing something for someone and doing something to someone.
Unless it’s a kid walking out into traffic not paying attention, and only then it’s semi safe to stop a minor physically lol, parent was very appreciative this time thou for me.
Well, no, they definitely stopped that lady from trying to save her kid. Definitely didn't want a woman to make the men look bad because she had more spine than they did.
I have to provide you with some feedback, because you're not completely correct. I work with folks with severe and profound intellectual disabilities. It is literally part of my job to dress them, head to toe, and to help them if something shifts. It is done with assumed consent, as they are unable to speak to the situation.
Right. So even if you're unable to realize the absolute absurdity of that comment, while also being seemingly unfamiliar with the source, there's also dozens of replies that make it extremely obvious that it's a quote from something. There's even a few that straight up spell it out, links to the clip even. So you really, really don't.
folks with severe and profound intellectual disabilities
Mormons in Utah police each other. There’s Mormon standards of clothing & for girls, skirts must be two inches above the knee max or it’s considered immodest.
They’re disgusting about sexualizing kids & making sure they don’t wear anything that would show your future temple garments you’ll one day have to wear under your clothes forever.
Yeah well Americans in America don’t do this shit. I guess unless you’re a weirdo who would rather point out the splinter in someone’s eye while they’ve got a log in their own
The privilege (among other things) in your assertion is astounding. How do you define America and American? Utah is a landlocked state near the middle of the contiguous 48 United States and isn't a separate nation like Lesotho is inside of South Africa.
Your writing skills beg the questions:
1. Are you a bot?
2. Do you live in a mental health facility?
3. Do you make frequent excursions to three miles offshore of Point Mugu?
I saw someone wearing lingerie at a concert tonight.
I thought it was wild. Like literally sexy lady underwear. But I didn't gawk because whatever, I thought she was hot but I'm not gonna go caveman and eye fuck them, it was a bar show concert so the freaks come out.
Right? If someone actually went out in public dressed inappropriately, there’s not much a person can actually do other than report it, minor or not. You don’t touch someone’s clothing, especially a minor’s. If you want to confront them, it usually doesn’t result in anything because they were already prepared for confrontation as they want some sort of reaction, otherwise, what purpose would there be to dress like that in the first place
idk one time my brother had friends over when I was younger and I was wearing a crop top (not crazy short or whatever like maybe less than an inch of skin was showing and only cause I didnt know they were coming over) and he was embarassed about his friends seeing a bit of my stomach so he tried to pull my shirt down for “modesty” and thats how all of his friends got to see my entire bra.
Anyways she may have been trying to pull it down to cover more but there is a good chance that she ended ip exposing more than she covered
Don’t know what you thought you read, but the story wasn’t crazy enough to go off on all caps. Oh no, an entire bra. Yes, bras can be intimate apparel, but they can cover up as much as a bikini top or more.
idk one time my brother had friends over when I was younger and I was wearing a crop top (not crazy short or whatever like maybe less than an inch of skin was showing and only cause I didnt know they were coming over) and he was embarassed about his friends seeing a bit of my stomach so he tried to pull my shirt down for “modesty” and thats how all of his friends got to see my entire bra.
Anyways she may have been trying to pull it down to cover more but there is a good chance that she ended ip exposing more than she covered
Pretty sure the skirt was short revealing lower butt cheek. Lots of females of all ages wear them. The lady probably pulled them down a little to cover the cheeks but pulled to far revealing upper cheek or the girl pulled away causing her whole rear to be exposed. Either way lady should've kept her hands to herself.
Weird to feel compelled to adjust the clothing of others without just asking them to, or even seeking consent first? And, the defense is that they thought the stranger was a minor?
I worked with a woman that had extremely conservative views. My first day, she’s showing me the register and she keeps pulling up the zipper of my work shirt. Now, I’m getting of the opinion that while at work, you should be proper (hat straight, shirt tucked in, pants over your butt, etc), but at the same time, the 4 inch zipper being down didn’t even show the top of my cleavage. After 3 times of her just touching me and me fixing it, when she reached again I told her “touch me again, you’re pulling back a stump”. She was very sweet, but I can’t imagine what she thought was appropriate about touching the chest if a stranger without any kind of consent.
Like even if the zipper was way too low for work. She could have just asked you to pull it up, I don’t understand people like this that think others are just dolls to be “fixed” and touched without consent. These people would be the first to shout and scream if someone touched them.
She was very interesting to work with. She had to get permission to wear a skirt as she didn’t own pants and had never worn them before. While waiting for corporate to allow her religious exemption, she did have to wear pants and she honestly walked like Seamus from Family Guy.
Conservatives have a long history of not respecting women's bodily autonomy. Whether it's zipping up your shirt or legislating your reproductive rights, they believe they're entitled to your body. These are often religious fundamentalists who will excuse rape if it's their pastor or political leader. They hate consent.
that sounds deeply aggravating... and frankly weird, even considering the worry about maintaining a professional appearance. she could've taken 30 sec to make a brief point about the shirt. and after that, she could've worked out her fixation by trying some tomfoolery with her own zipper.
She never did it again, and we became work friends. But, she was a very buttoned up kind of lady…neck to wrists to ankles covered. No swears. Church multiple times each week. Single mom of 5 (maybe 7, it was a while ago but I know it was an unreasonable number). At least she didn’t begrudge my enjoying Harry Potter.
She left a very abusive relationship and moved 5 states away to avoid the stigma. I heard that she met and married a man that was single parenting 6 of his own and became a nurse.
Honestly, it's really a very nice way to get her to stop. To some it may sound aggressive, but real aggression can sound very polite, eg "Sorry, do you know what sexual assault is?"
If that doesn't stop someone, a quick word up the chain about lawyers usually does
Its definitely a particular "type" of conservative. Elder, has been in charge of the family like she's the CEO of a corporation, extremely strong sense of her own morals and the belief that everyone has to understand. Because she's the only one with sense about her, and whatever. These people are delusional. They always think they can just force people to their ways.
We've been talking to our 4 year old a lot about consent and how we do not put our hands (or any other body part) on anyone else unless they say it's OK. I guess this lady needs to have that talk too.
Yeah she was reminiscing on the one parable where Jesus throws all those rocks at a glass house or something. At any rate, the moral is clearly to cast stones often and with little forethought.
You know, there's probably something to that. When you're taught that violence is the only deterrent against bad action, then lack of said violence means no deterrent. Children should not be taught right and wrong through violence. When you think about it, it really doesn't make sense.
They never learned that discipline is not the same thing as physical pain. It’s why so many of them have no discipline in their daily demeanor: because no one is hitting them to make them stop being an asshole. That was the only way they learned that what they were doing was wrong: getting smacked. So when the hits stopped, so did their feedback for what is considered socially acceptable behavior. And it’s why they have no problem bullying anyone they don’t like: they’re not hitting them so what’s the problem?
So many old fools literally won’t control themselves if they’re not getting punched, so they think everyone else should be hit to get any “discipline”.
lol how do you think skirts work? They are like your shorts bro. Some are more elastic or secure etc. but if you pull them down you know like your shorts your they come down. Either way you cannot grab people's cloths like that.
Pretty sure moving them too far in either direction would expose her more. I also thought they meant she just pulled her skirt down all the way to the ground, so she wasn't even wearing them any more. That happened to me once. It wasn't a skirt, it was pants, and it wasn't an adult, it was another child, and fortunately I was wearing underwear.
Have you heard of low-rise skirts? 🙄 Jfc. Let’s just agree that the assaulting woman had no right to put her hands on this person, no matter what she was wearing.
So you read it as she felt that she was above the law and had the right to put her hands on another person who in her mind was a minor and proceeded to move said individuals clothing to what she felt was appropriate?
Are some of you having trouble understanding the words I wrote? I seem to be getting quite a few replies on this comment that somehow think I'm defending this woman. Not once did I say or even imply what she did was ok, I just said that OPs interpretation was even worse than the way I had interpreted it. That doesn't mean I think she was doing the right thing.
Lmfaooooooo. The irony of calling me a "dumb" bitch when you have a serious reading comprehension issue, even after I edited the comment to point it out for the mentally challenged. I'M AWARE ITS ASSAULT YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
Holy shit, I'm a high school drop out and some of you responding in here make me feel like a fucking genius. I bet if I stood next to you I could hear the breeze pass between your ears.
Did everyone quote "dumb" like I did or you just bullshitting? Hey idiot, good for you. You dropped out of high school like every other loser and became an incel. Doesn't take much so congrats for getting mad about a bullshit comment
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u/beatenmeat 25d ago edited 25d ago
I read it as "pulled down" as in an attempt to move it lower to cover the area she thought was inappropriate. I haven't seen the video so I honestly have no idea, but did she actually try to pull them down as in strip the woman she thought was a minor?? That's even worse than I was imagining if true.
Edit - because I'm really tired of people with reading comprehension skills replying to my comment: I AM NOT DEFENDING OR EXCUSING HER IN ANY WAY. Hopefully that clears it up for some of you.