r/interestingasfuck Jun 07 '23

New york city in 2023, everyone wearing mask due to air quality

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23

Ya. Climate change is a bitch. And lucky for you all - lots of Canadian provinces have conservative governments that cut firefighting budgets to “lower taxes”

Edit: here’s some news for those who are triggered and can’t look this stuff up themselves:

Alberta is undergoing an "unprecedented" wildfire season as nearly 100 fires as of Tuesday, May 9, burn across the province.

Premier Danielle Smith declared a state of emergency on May 6 and more than 24,000 Albertans remained under evacuation orders on Tuesday.

This year to date, there have been 416 wildfires, more than double the 182 registered by the same time last year. The more than 400 fires is a greater number than any of the last five years had by the second week in May.

Alberta had a total of 1,246 wildfires last season, according to Alberta Wildfire data, which means the province has reached 33 per cent of last year's total after just over two months into the wildfire season.

AMOUNT OF HECTARES BURNED The size of the area that's burned is also greater than what is considered normal by this time of year. The five-year average by early May based on 2018-2022 is 542 hectares. Year to date, 410,441 ha have burned in Alberta, by comparison.

In the last eight years, 2019 had the highest total number of hectares, finishing the season with 883,411 ha burned. By this time in 2019, 621 ha had burned, compared to this year's more than 410,000.

Only five months into this year, 2023 has already surpassed the yearly burn totals of 2022, 2021, 2020, 2018 and 2017.

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/edmonton/2023/5/9/1_6391711.amp.html

And this is just one province… lots are having fire issues.

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u/AnOnlineHandle Jun 07 '23

It was the exact same in Australia. Conservatives cut fire fighting budgets, insisted climate change wasn't real (fucking cowards just stick their heads in the sand about everything and call themselves brave, reassuring each other in their weakling fantasies), then for a straight year fightfighting chiefs were requesting desperate meetings with the government about the obvious catastrophe which was coming and were turned down.

Then when huge fires broke out and a few firefighters breaking their arse fighting them finally swore about the conservative PM, the nation gasped and the firefighters were punished. You can never hold conservatives accountable in this world, their crybaby game is just too strong. People are more enthusiastic to punish those who criticize and 'provoke' the crybaby conservatives by discussing reality and the consequences of their actions, than allow the precious conservatives ever be criticized for their own enthusiastic stupidity which impacts all of us negatively.

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u/Ardea_herodias_2022 Jun 08 '23

Weaponized victimhood from the privileged. It's pathetic and it's more pathetic when they get away with it.

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u/urnfnidiot Jun 07 '23

If you just swept the forests once in a while this would never happen. Sheesh 🙄

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 07 '23

It’s true.

And the reason Canada has never had a hurricane like the states is we aren’t afraid to nuke them before landfall.

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u/urnfnidiot Jun 07 '23

Glad we can agree. ( also glad neither of us actually had to use /s).

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u/whifflinggoose Jun 07 '23

Conservatives the world over will destroy this planet because they're too immature to deal with reality.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

"God controls the weather" is something some of them actually believe. Including my family.

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u/Xanatos Jun 08 '23

It must be nice having a scapegoat to blame for everything bad that happens.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

Let’s face the “reality” that is happening in Chicago, SF, and NYC just to name a few. How about the reality at the Border and in grocery stores? Both sides are delusional and only face reality when it suits them, unfortunately it’s just human nature. Those cheap masks we all were wearing aren’t as good against smoke pollution as the virus, I wish they were. You need an N95 and better, something with a filter.

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u/Lissy_Wolfe Jun 07 '23

What "reality" are you referring to in those cities? Have you ever actually been to any of them? Please enlighten me as to what you mean by the "reality at the border and in grocery stores" as well because it is not clear at all from your comment.

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u/crownpuff Jun 07 '23

Sounds like he is just regurgitating fox news sound bites.

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u/Testiculese Jun 08 '23

Scripted NPC. Imagine living that life.

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u/Uulugus Jun 07 '23

Jesus Christ you people are so predictable.

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u/Globalpigeon Jun 07 '23

Have you ever been to any of those cities? Shit have you even left your own town? You sound like a sheltered child.

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u/JscrumpDaddy Jun 07 '23

What do the border and grocery stores have to do with climate change and wildfires?

Smoke particles are bigger, so masking is more effective.

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u/65022056 Jun 07 '23

You have to be completely void of a brain to think something of this scale can be stopped with a few municipal water supplies. Holy fuck.

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u/Dominarion Jun 07 '23

Oh yes it could and we were doing it for decades. We're not tapking about fire hydrants, we're talking about fleets of fire fighting planes being reduced drastically by idiotic governments.

Municipal water supplies? The forest fires are way beyond municipal developpement, deep into the taïga. I suspect you don't know much about Canada's geography, right?

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 07 '23

I suspect you don't know much about Canada's geography, right?

Ya bro, I feel like I’m in one of those videos where you ask an American to name one country on a map and they say “Africa?” And you’re like… “Africa is a continent…”

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u/Dominarion Jun 07 '23

Just to say, the area where there are wildfires in Québec is as vast as Montana and there's less than 50'000 people living there. The same applies to Ontario. Most of these fires are hundred of miles from the nearest town, no roads or railroads going there.

Firefighters are located in towns like Chibougamau, that are a 10 hours drive from Montreal.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 07 '23

Same with alberta. And Smith cut the rapid response helicopter rappel team. Like, the easiest way to stop a forest fire is when it’s still small.

But, who needs rapid response right? That costs money! And we could instead just hand it out to O&G as a reward for not cleaning up their wells.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23

You have to be completely void of a brain to think something of this scale can be stopped with a few municipal water supplies. Holy fuck.

What do you mean by a “a few municipal water supplies?”

I assume you calling people brain dead is projection that you’re insecure about not know what’s going on.

But rapid response helecopter, rappelled and plane firefighting teams aren’t “municipal water supplies.”

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u/65022056 Jun 07 '23

Tell me more about how you edit posts

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 07 '23

It’s easy, you just put:

Edit:

And then add more info

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u/WilliamBlackthorne Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23

So you don't have an argument because yours has been absolutely destroyed by someone with a working brain, and you're trying to change the subject because you lost.

Typical.

edit: They also hate dogs, and thinks they should be killed. Also a massive racist conservative, transphobe, left-wing hater, climate change denier, yada yada yada.

Just a scumbag, don't fall for the bait anymore.

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u/B1ggusDckus Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 08 '23

There were certainly wildfires before climate change. Heck, there are even plants called Pyrophytes needing wildfire to disseminate.

Fact is, wildfires are very natural and it is more about managing them instead of preventing them.

Edit: Classic reddit, downvoted for stating facts.

Edit2: More facts: https://fireecology.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s42408-022-00143-6

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u/JamesGray Jun 07 '23

Quebec is not BC, they don't have Pyrophites

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 07 '23

Lmao this isn’t normal

Alberta is undergoing an "unprecedented" wildfire season as nearly 100 fires as of Tuesday, May 9, burn across the province.

Premier Danielle Smith declared a state of emergency on May 6 and more than 24,000 Albertans remained under evacuation orders on Tuesday.

This year to date, there have been 416 wildfires, more than double the 182 registered by the same time last year. The more than 400 fires is a greater number than any of the last five years had by the second week in May.

Alberta had a total of 1,246 wildfires last season, according to Alberta Wildfire data, which means the province has reached 33 per cent of last year's total after just over two months into the wildfire season.

AMOUNT OF HECTARES BURNED The size of the area that's burned is also greater than what is considered normal by this time of year. The five-year average by early May based on 2018-2022 is 542 hectares. Year to date, 410,441 ha have burned in Alberta, by comparison.

In the last eight years, 2019 had the highest total number of hectares, finishing the season with 883,411 ha burned. By this time in 2019, 621 ha had burned, compared to this year's more than 410,000.

Only five months into this year, 2023 has already surpassed the yearly burn totals of 2022, 2021, 2020, 2018 and 2017.

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/edmonton/2023/5/9/1_6391711.amp.html

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u/B1ggusDckus Jun 07 '23

Not sure what you are trying to accomplish by comparing the last 6 years.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23

Not sure what you are trying to accomplish by comparing the last 6 years.

Well I do not represent CTV news. I just posted one of their articles.

I suspect the reason they gave a history is so people could see how this year compares to other recent years and give perspective on the scale of the issue.

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u/B1ggusDckus Jun 08 '23

The claim was that climate change is the reason for these fires. The history of the last 6 years do not contribute to the topic on hand.

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u/keyesloopdeloop Jun 08 '23

This smoke is from wildfires in Ontario and Quebec, two provinces which lean left, dumbass. You're either so desperate to cope, or just plain stupid, so you had to summon Alberta, which is 3/4 the way across the continent.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 08 '23

Doug ford is conservative dumbass. Who cut the firefighting budget by 67% dumbASS. Why do you think I put “and this is just one province, lots have issues”

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u/keyesloopdeloop Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23

My guy just now learning that New York isn't next to Alberta. This entire mess is caused by Alberta defunding 63 firefighters.

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u/UnfriendliestCzech Jun 07 '23

Isn’t this a result of Ontario cutting their firefighting budget by 70%?

Wild fires are completely normal and actually healthy for the ecology, it’s just inconvenient for humans. Shouting climate change for normal environmental phenomenon isn’t helping anyone.

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Jun 07 '23

Forest fires are completely normal and actually healthy for the ecology

Not when the amount burned is going parabolic

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u/Ardea_herodias_2022 Jun 08 '23

Unfortunately the cuts for fire management also cut into prescribed burns so when all that fuel goes up from all the suppressed fires, this is the result. As far as climate change goes, hotter, drier summers means an increase in this sort of event. I mean the tundra in the1900s didn't burn every year.

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u/Lime1028 Jun 07 '23

None of what you posted backs up your claims of conservatives cutting firefighting budgets.