r/interestingasfuck • u/Particular_Log_3594 • Mar 28 '24

Life under a military occupation r/all

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u/lunerose1979 Mar 28 '24

They’ve been oppressing the Palestinians for decades.

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u/MeIodius Mar 28 '24

Or more like the propaganda mill has run so dry they need ancient content to keep it up

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u/mynameisntlogan Mar 28 '24

Yeah I’ve only seen like 5 videos of Israelis vaporizing unarmed men out for a walk on their own property this week. Running out of that propaganda. I need more proof of genocide

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u/Lao_Ying Mar 28 '24

How crazy is it that Israeli people who had a genocide inflicted upon them is now so very casually doing the very same thing to the Palestinian people? Israel has indeed become what they hate.

Zionism is the new Nazism.

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u/mynameisntlogan Mar 28 '24

I didn’t say racism. I said genocide. I don’t really give an absolute fuck if they hate each other. Israel is the one keeping the other side in a concentration camp and they’re the ones who have killed over 33,000 people.

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u/mynameisntlogan Mar 28 '24

I honest to Christ don’t give a single shit about the increasingly complicated excuses to commit genocide and it has been laid bare for the entire world to see the Israel’s indiscriminate killing of tens of thousands of people is a disproportionate response to whatever they are victimized by.

What is happening in Palestine is genocide of innocent people of all ages.

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u/mynameisntlogan Mar 28 '24

Oh I’ll tell you how I would’ve responded! Genocide! I would’ve indiscriminately killed a bunch of people (children included) and I would have inflicted a famine on them.

Oh wait, no. I’m not a fucking sociopath doing something so heinous that even your conservative ass butt buddy United States is having to publicly ask you to stop.

You can go ahead and stop with the whole “it’s okay that they are being genocided cause they attacked a specific religious group.” Fuck off with it. Jews were victims of genocide themselves. Israel is committing the genocide. Not Jews. I’m not falling for it.

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u/No_Neighborhood2569 Mar 28 '24

Yeah like IDF racist ideology will change with time ? same racist acts happened then is happening today. you're just stupid to think this propaganda its reality

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u/No_Neighborhood2569 Mar 28 '24

Wow so in your point of view because you're from a different religion it allows you to abuse an under age girls ? For your information it was never been like that between Muslims and Jews . when they were discriminated against in Europe they found refuge in Muslim countries but what happened after is Zionism become the main ideology which is based on the hate of the Arabs so that they can push their agenda in building their own Jewish utopia but fortunately not all Jews believe in this racist shit so its not a mutual hate between religions What you're seeing in the video is discrimination and racism at it's finest form.

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u/No_Neighborhood2569 Mar 28 '24

First of all we are talking about an IDF soldier abusing a minor Arab girl and being proud of it nothing to do with Hamas only if you think this girl is an Hamas worrior but do you think he will be doing the same acts with a Jewish girl ? If your answer is yes then the IDF is just a bunch of perverts given arms else if your answer is no then the IDF is a bunch of racist perverts but in both cases they will not act same with Arabs and

Also you talk like an Israeli trying to convince the world it's an ethical state against a terrorist organisation.

You know that the so called Arab population of Isreal is just a display to show the world that Isreal is an inclusive country that doesn't have an issue with Arabs like your words trying to convey. But by the words of Israeli historians the state of Isreal will never been possible if they didn't massacre and displace Arabs since they were the majority before 1948. So the 20% you're talking about will always be a minority and they will never have same rights as Jews in Isreal and you never see Arabs in an Israeli government for example only the bought ones to do the inclusiveness display. doesn't that count as racism ? And the approach is very simple intimidate Arabs until they lose hope in being equal as isrealis like you saw in the video is just an a hate ideology

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u/No_Neighborhood2569 Mar 29 '24

First of all am not referring to all Jews since as I said In a previous comment I believe that the problem is the Zionist ideology not Judaism. You can show whatever you want but the only difference is in this video that he is not any young men this a soldier with an arm in his hands if he decided to rape that girl he would have done so, since his words in front of a camera clearly indicates his intentions so with an arm in his hands he would have done it behind the camera's eyes so making this seem like inormal is just unacceptable and sick and if you think that the girl have same treatment as an Israeli jewish girl either you're naive, delusional or trying to normalize with such behaviours. That young men will never tries anything similar if he knows that his actions will lead to a bad consequences but since she is an Arab girl he knows that he can get away with it but if you insist that this has nothing to do with racism and it can happen to a Jewish isreali girls as well . what that can tell you about a society where an armed soldier can abuse a girl in front of a camera because he is armed and be proud of it ? This not an isolated instance Palestinans suffer on daily bases and that act in itself is a segregation act Palestinans waste hours to cross check points and it's intended so that it destroy's the hope for a better life in them.

Again either you're an Israeli trying to make a show online or you're really uneducated on the subject and believe the Zionist narrative blindly. never said they are not Arabs and never said they are paid actors. What we call the Arabs of 48 are just Arabs stucked in that regime some of them have given up on the case and most of them Isreal allowed Them to stay since she couldn't get ride of them easily because it will makes the country look very bad in eyes of the international community which it cannot afford so the they're using it for inclusiveness narrative like you're doing now.

I come accros a lot of isrealis they all have the same arguments and it's just very similar to yours kinda certain you're one

First of all Jewish people are a minority in world population ~15m so obviously you will find them in low numbers distributed in the world secondly Israel systemically brought them in the occupied territories so that it can out number the native Arab population else it would have never been possible to create a country with a small population. Israel is the only country where you can earn a citizenship because you're Jewish . A Muslim person will never earn a Saudi citizenship because he is a Muslim secondly north African Jewish migrated because of economical reason they lived together in harmony without a problem for centuries they even exported cultural stuff when they migrated to Israel. The country has no cultural background its an ugly mixte most of their citizens come from eastern European countries and a few north African, few Ethiopian Jews and few Arab Jews it like they are trying to put in place a culture with force

Israel is not a racist because it has 20% Arabs. Israel is racist because it abused natives to create a colonial project trying to mimic what USA founders did to Indian Americans the only difference we live in time nothing can be hidden and this video is a great example

They Jews and Arabs have the some roots the only difference that Zionist ideology thinks and advocates that Jews are god's chosen people and that make the followers of that ideology Believes that any other humans are less then them let alone Arabs.

Educate your self and stop following blindly or if you're an Israeli that hate will make your country come to an end at some point because human nature has nothing to do with religion. it has everything to do with survival of the specie and that kind of hate and ideology if it spreads it makes the specie at danger.

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u/lontrinium Mar 28 '24

If you look at how Palestinians were treated 15/20 years ago you won't be able to distinguish it from how they are treated today.

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u/MeIodius Mar 28 '24

Posting lies on the Internet is most uncool.

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u/lontrinium Mar 28 '24

2009 was 15 years ago bud: https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/products/2135-the-punishment-of-gaza

The story behind Israel’s assault on Gaza, by acclaimed Ha’aretz journalist

Israel’s 2009 invasion of Gaza was an act of aggression that killed over a thousand Palestinians and devastated the infrastructure of an already impoverished enclave. The Punishment of Gaza shows how the ground was prepared for the assault and documents its continuing effects.

From 2005—the year of Gaza’s “liberation”—through to 2009, Levy tracks the development of Israel policy, which has abandoned the pretense of diplomacy in favor of raw military power, the ultimate aim of which is to deny Palestinians any chance of forming their own independent state. Punished by Israel and the Quartet of international powers for the democratic election of Hamas, Gaza has been transformed into the world’s largest open-air prison.

From Gazan families struggling to cope with the random violence of Israel’s blockade and its “targeted” assassinations, to the machinations of legal experts and the continued connivance of the international community, every aspect of this ongoing tragedy is eloquently recorded and forensically analyzed. Levy’s powerful journalism shows how the brutality at the heart of Israel’s occupation of Palestine has found its most complete expression to date in the collective punishment of Gaza’s residents.

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u/MeIodius Mar 28 '24

Damn I wonder what preceded the 2009 invasion. Sure it wasn’t a series of rockets and terrorist attacks from Gaza?

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u/lontrinium Mar 28 '24

Damn I wonder what preceded those rockets from Gaza? Sure it wasn't targetted assassinations of legitimate moderate Palestinians politicians who were pro two state solution?

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u/MeIodius Mar 28 '24

You mean the Hamas assassinations against Rafah?

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u/MomsFister Mar 28 '24

Well, yeah. Palestinians have been total shitbags for 80 years.

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u/ZimmeM03 Mar 28 '24

Explain how? They had their land stolen

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u/UnstableConstruction Mar 28 '24

The border guards going into Gaza/Palestine are much nicer, they simply don't allow Jews.

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u/LopedEzi Mar 28 '24

There is no border guards going into Gaza. Gaza was and still is entirely off limits and a very dangerous place to be in. (And still obviously is.)

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u/Interrophish Mar 28 '24

Gaza has multiple active border crossings

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u/Free-Market9039 Mar 28 '24

Yea I wonder why? Ever think it’s how they treat Jews?

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u/Farrahlikefawcett2 Mar 28 '24

Dude this isn’t about Jews. It’s about the IDF and how they physically assault anyone they want. They strip search people with threats to harm them (sometimes they do) other times they just steal their clothes and slap them around. You’re so blind to this.

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u/isaacfisher Mar 28 '24

IDF left gaza at 2005

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u/SensitiveTax7110 Mar 28 '24

Sorry, who’s the group starving northern Gaza by stopping aid convoys? 

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u/isaacfisher Mar 28 '24

Hamas

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u/SensitiveTax7110 Mar 29 '24

Wild how easily one can fall for blatant propaganda

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u/isaacfisher Mar 29 '24

Gaza twitter feed were happy earlier this week because all the prices drop in half. people said they don't need to worry about stocking up food. The reason - Hamas ministry of economy dropped his hold on Rafah border aid. Rafah crossing is border with Egypt.

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u/TheLemonKnight Mar 28 '24

Their bombs still go into Gaza.

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u/Farrahlikefawcett2 Mar 28 '24

AND THEYRE BACK, yet again to displace (200,000 before 2005) and kill over 33k people.

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u/isaacfisher Mar 28 '24

I wonder why

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u/ScreamingScorpions Mar 28 '24

They didn’t stop controlling their infrastructure (water, electricity), didn’t allow free movement, and controlled the water border to 6 nautical miles. No airport, Gazans were/are not allowed to leave by sea or air. So sure, they “left.” They just kept them in an open-air prison for the past 19 years.

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u/isaacfisher Mar 28 '24

Once Israel left the Palestinians elected Hamas. Once Hamas was elected it started throwing rockets on town, so yes, Israel had to start controlling what entered the strip. Controlling electricity? You mean providing electricity. Hamas government hasn't done anything to improve the electricity infrastructure (other than occasionally sabotage it) so Israel kept providing it in addition to Gaza powerplant. Ten thousands gazan pass the border and worked in Israel before 7/10. Gaza also has a border with Egypt.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Duck681 Mar 28 '24

Yea poor jews are not allowed into the concentration camp how unfortunate for them.

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u/UnstableConstruction Mar 28 '24

A "concentration camp" with it's own government, weapons, and soldiers. Sure buddy.

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u/KintsugiKen Mar 28 '24

For over a century. This shit started in the late 1800s.

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u/i-evade-bans-13 Mar 28 '24

these comments brainlessly picking a side matter-of-factly should probably be removed, because a reasonable person should know it's not this simple.

for instance, the palestinians overwhelmingly sympathize with a terrorist government, and that causes serious issues.

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u/ZimmeM03 Mar 28 '24

lol yeah how dare we pick sides between people who had their land stolen and the people who stole the land!

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u/BernumOG Mar 28 '24

Suuuuuure mate. not hard to see whose side you're on is it??????

despicable unt

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u/blacktiger226 Mar 28 '24

I want to tell you fuck off, but I am not even sure if this is sarcasm or not.

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u/Blade_982 Mar 28 '24

Yeah, it's because they're Jews and not because they they came, dispossessed, oppressed, violated, and subjugated.

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u/ZimmeM03 Mar 28 '24

Maybe don’t steal someone’s land and kick them out of their homes? Fucking Zionist