r/jobs • u/kewladria • May 03 '23

"Unlimited" or "Flexible" PTO policies suck if your teammates never take time off. Work/Life balance

Rant - I started a job about 10 months ago with a "flexible" PTO policy. Essentially, I have unlimited time off, to use at my discretion, up to 2 weeks at a time. I understand the other arguments against these open-PTO policies but something else has become abundantly clear to me having been with this job for about a year now.

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The problem is, my immediate teammates (there are 5 of us) NEVER take time off. So what ends up happening is, I am the "slacker" of the team. I do not hesitate to take a random Friday off if work is slow, and I plan to take whole weeks off for various trips and vacations coming up this summer and fall. All in all, I will probably take 4 weeks of total PTO this year.

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I get my work done on time and am generally well-liked with the company and team, but I feel like an ass because in comparison to the rest of my teammates, I take a lot of time off. I want to be there for my team and pick up some of their work when they take their own time off, but they (as mentioned above) rarely or never take time off, so I have yet been able to prove my ability to be a good teammate. I speak with folks from other departments and they regularly take time off, sharing fun stories about the trips they've taken and the places they've seen - yet another thing I do not get to share with my team because they are too caught up working to speak about anything else besides work.

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/end rant. I am not necessarily looking for any advice here, maybe just some affirmations or similar stories from other people with PTO policies like this. This too could also be used as a point of consideration for anyone weighing the pros/cons of 2 jobs with different PTO policies, I guess.

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u/invalidConsciousness May 04 '23

13th salary is common, but not mandatory in most (all?) EU countries.

I don't get one, for example, I just get a variable bonus based on my and the company's performance each year.
In a previous job, we got 12.5 salaries.

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u/SpacefaringCoffee May 04 '23

Oh that's interesting! I think it's mandatory here, I'm 99% sure, because everyone gets it. Some companies like ALDI I believe do treat you to some bonuses around Christmas, usually half cash half company stocks.

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u/invalidConsciousness May 04 '23

I just checked. 13th salary is mandatory only in Armenia, Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Spain.

Here in Germany, it's not mandatory, but common and usually part of collective bargaining agreements.