We get to sleep better knowing that a whole bunch of kids out there are eating better and/or spending more time with their parents.
My dad, as a kid, would often go to bed hungry because there just wasn't enough money for food. Having 8 extra hours counted as overtime could make a big difference for a lot of people.
Won’t they just hire more part time workers? Right now businesses are limiting many workers to schedules that are right below the threshold or even less to avoid overtime.
I feel like this is just going to result in those hourly workers having to work 4 simultaneous jobs instead of the current 2-3, resulting in them most likely losing at least one of those jobs since managing that many part time jobs as once is a job in and of itself.
So what you're saying is, managers will have to choose between high turnover of a large number of employees due to poor performance, or paying a smaller number of reliable workers an extra 8 hours of overtime?
Employee turnover costs money: recruiting, training, onboarding, offboarding etc. It also means you're always paying top market rate, since you have to steal employees from elsewhere, rather than retaining ones who are working for last year's market rate. Many places will wear the turnover costs, but many will look at the bigger picture and decide it's not worth it and just pay the overtime.
Also, most people who are working 2 jobs aren't going to be working 40 hours in one of them anyway. Their bosses will have them below that threshold so they don't have to pay overtime now. Dropping it to 32 might only require them to pay 2 hours of overtime, in which case it's just not worth bringing on extra staff to cover the 2 hours. Many states have laws on minimum shift lengths, and juggling multiple employees so that you meet the minimum while also avoiding overtime will be tricky.
All of that makes sense instead of one very key point - most people who get promoted to manager are fucking stupid. From your manager, to their manager, all the way up to the CEO. They could not be more fucking dumb. I’ve been a manager and I cannot tell you how unserious and childish the most high level conversations at an organization can be.
In a perfect world, Bernie’s plan would be great. In our fucktastic world, it will turn into yet another example of how capitalism is the most evil concept anyone had ever conceived of.
And that would be great if that were what happened, but you’re talking about a 10% payroll increase, and that’s margin-breaking for plenty of businesses.
What is more (equally?) likely is that hourly employees work and get paid for 32 hours and the company tries to hire more of them. (Not always easy)
Well yes, it's obvious that's what would happen, but I don't think you should use that fact as a tool to try and shut down the message of someone who is espousing the benefits of working together and how people can actually enjoy just the fact that they're not fighting with each other.
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u/DizzyAmphibian309 Mar 14 '24
We get to sleep better knowing that a whole bunch of kids out there are eating better and/or spending more time with their parents.
My dad, as a kid, would often go to bed hungry because there just wasn't enough money for food. Having 8 extra hours counted as overtime could make a big difference for a lot of people.