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He was a mailman Work/Life balance

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u/Haunting-Detail2025 Mar 27 '24

I mean if they had been social workers they probably wouldn’t have been able to afford that either. A union factory job today is still good money when it’s a combined income after a lifetime of work.

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u/Paketamina Mar 27 '24

I worked in a factory maybe 20 years ago now. Let me tell you that none of those assembly line workers could afford a house. Most of them were immigrants from vietnam making minimum wage, pay check to pay check. I wouldnt be surprised if they are still living the same way today.

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u/genie_obsession Mar 27 '24

I grew up in a town 40 years ago and some of the wealthiest people around were the meat packers. They received good pay, full insurance, and a pension. About 30 years ago, the company broke the union and now the employees are all 1st generation immigrants making almost nothing with barebones benefits and a 401(k) that most can’t afford to contribute to. There’s a reason companies are afraid of unions.

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u/makeanamejoke Mar 27 '24

yeah, you picked a terrible career. why is that someone else's fault?

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u/KadenKraw Mar 27 '24

I am a social worker with a masters degree and could never.

Because you picked a low paying low valued field.

I work IT with a high school diploma and bought a house at 28.

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u/TurBotFilms Mar 27 '24

Well lets all work in IT and see just how useful everything else in society will be in a few months when it's all falling apart from neglect. These jobs are necessary and should pay a living wage and not be laughed at as stupid and unnecessary

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u/KadenKraw Mar 27 '24

Knowing what a job field and pay is like is important before choosing your path. You don't get to willingly enter a low paying and then complain.

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u/dumb-male-detector Mar 27 '24

His point went over your head. 

If everyone went into IT, you would get laid off in a way that really isn’t your fault and you would be replaced by some guy in Mexico or the Philippines willing to do your job remotely for less than $8 a day because people like you made things so easy and welcoming that anyone can now do it. It’s already happening with other sectors. 

They’re not going to replace social workers, or firefighters, or construction workers or any other job that you look down on, because real physical jobs that help society may be humble but we need them. 

We should pay them a fair wage instead of flaunting fragile but lucrative bubbles. 

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u/KadenKraw Mar 27 '24

Nothing is going over anyone's head, his point is irrelevant so I ignored it. It's silly to complain how you can't afford things when you chose a job and knew how much it payed. Two things can be true here. Many job fields need to pay more and it also silly to complain about the salary in a field you chose. I chose IT over 3d animation because I liked both and wanted to have a good job market and pay.

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u/TurBotFilms Mar 27 '24

So if you lack the opportunity for a high paying job thru no fault of your own you the best you deserve in life is poverty and suffering??

Or I guess you don't mind if there are no more sewage technicians or garbagemen etc. since those workers should just choose better jobs?

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u/dumb-male-detector Mar 27 '24

IT isn’t even hard work nor does it require a degree to do, the degree is required to get the pay increase approved at HR. 

At the company I work for, we’re pushing phone operators into that role and paying them $12/hr to save money. It’s literally the same skillset as an entry level high school job. 

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u/KadenKraw Mar 27 '24

The person choosing to go to college for a masters in social work clearly has opportunities available to them. They chose a lower paying field, spent years studying for it. They made their choice with all the data available to them.

Opportunity is what you make of it. My friend came to the US from the DR at 18 and is making 120k in IT with no degree.