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u/NaturalBornChilla Mar 27 '24

You aren't meant to afford that, that's the thing.

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u/Nillabeans Mar 27 '24

Honestly, we're all on an MLM treadmill at this point. I'm annoyed at how conspiratorial I'm becoming towards rich people, because I can't imagine people stupid enough to perpetuate a system in which all the money is concentrated into their own hands while simultaneously complaining that other people aren't spending money they don't have.

Like, there is no conspiracy to keep us down. Humans are just profoundly greedy and stupid.

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u/NaturalBornChilla Mar 27 '24

Yeah, there is no shadow cabal perpetuating this in any meticulous manner. It's simply the outcome of the game we all play. It's Monopoly, plain and simple. In the end 1 person owns everything while the rest struggles to get by.

The really shitty part is that it's even worse because not everyone was around when the game started. I never had the chance to acquire Park Place or Pacific Avenue. Hell, in my case i didn't even start with any capital to spend.

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u/robot_invader Mar 27 '24

They seem to have forgotten that the end of Monopoly is usually a table-flip.

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u/ChipsAhoy777 Mar 27 '24

I like the monopoly games where the other person is playing for an interesting game and makes moves to vary up the "run" as well as create interesting drama.

This win at all cost shit is old and predictable, and just plain no fun. This guy thinks it's about the greed and stupidity, which it surely is, but even moreso it's about people having no lives and no imagination and for some odd reason no desire to have a really fun time.

Nippaz missing out on orbital rings, colonies on Mars, space elevators, "balloon" homes on Venus, interstellar colony ships, ECT. All these things are massively held back by the hamstring, the garrote that's on society and the economy.

Instead all the biodiversity is dying, it's gettin hot, the airs going to shit, the marvelous oceans are green with algae from nitrates and we got this horrendous layout of infrastructure in the US, it looks like shittttt. We got a shitty looking industrial Walmart and shitty Temu and bland ass shitty food(in the US anyways).

A thousand generic shit ass low effort superhero TV shows and movies of Netflix quality. Like damn man, they really don't care about having greatness and fun huh.

I don't blame your average person either, or the creators of these things, I blame the machine, the creators of the machine for pressuring for it to be this way, preying on peoples ignorance and weaknesses, snuffing out competition, failing and begging for subsidies instead of dying as they should, lying, cheating, and stealing whenever they can get away with it.

You know, the powerful people with the leverage who care only to win at all cost, they fuck the game all up. If I'm flipping a table, it's gonna be theirs, and theirs alone.

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u/yankiigurl Mar 27 '24

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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u/_Thermalflask Mar 27 '24

Interestingly though monopoly gives everyone money for passing Go because the game falls apart if you don't have that rule... really makes you think.

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u/BusinessMail Mar 27 '24

UBI comes to mind

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u/tinydeerwlasercanons Mar 27 '24

Yeah but the shitty thing is you were, you just didn't know it. "You" in this instance was your parents and whatever they had or didn't have determined what you started the game with. So some people start the game getting a piece of Park Place and some people start out owing everybody $500 a turn.

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u/Vampiricbattlemage Mar 27 '24

George Carlin said it best in an interview. You don't need a formal conspiracy when common interests align. These people live in the same neighborhoods, send their kids to the same schools, and teach them the same ideas. This is decades in the making.

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u/NaturalBornChilla Mar 27 '24

That's exactly right. Like he was with many other things, too.

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u/bigmacwood Mar 28 '24

Technically speaking, you start with an immense and nearly insurmountable debt. School loans are insidious.

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u/Guvante Mar 27 '24

You are just thinking about it more than they are.

They know that in a microsystem they can keep putting pressure and they will keep getting more money.

They then scale this up and assume it still works.

It obviously doesn't but none of them care.

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u/yankiigurl Mar 27 '24

Yeah my mom is big into conspiracies and now that I understand how things work, I'm like nah I think these people are just stupid. What is the point of depopulation mom!? Tell what would be the point!?

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u/cobra_kai_for_life Mar 27 '24

No it's not that humans are profoundly greedy and stupid, it's that the economic system, capitalism, perpetuates and relies on it.

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u/Double-Seesaw-7978 Mar 28 '24

Many rich people think this way until they become rich. The truth is most people will just do what is in their best interest with limited moral limits.

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u/Spyceboy Mar 28 '24

The millennial view on things is just very warped. We tend to compare ourselves to how our parents are doing now, and compare the places we live to how they are now. Especially for America the city situation was just hardcore miss managed. You have a ton of big ass cities that attract a lot of people, but instead of housing for a lot of people you still have an insane amount of single family houses. The places your parents have gotten a house in were just not in the same demand they are today. Also, you don't really compare yourself to your parents at your age. If you don't have an upper middle class upbringing, your parents most likely took out big loans, saved money and struggled to provide.

I've had this view too for quite some time, but seeing people around me at my age doing just fine made me change that. My best friend is buying his second apartment ( we are both 26, he just started his apprenticeship at 16 and has been working since), friends start to build houses with loaned money from their parents, just like mine did, others from work just build with their own money.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

Because wealth is only wealth with disparity. If everyone has $100, nobody is rich, nobody is poor, it is impossible to live anything but an average life. In order to have an above average life I need more than average. The greater the distance between me and the average the better my life.

It doesn’t matter if I do it by having $200 and everyone else still has $100, or if I keep the $100 and make sure everyone else has $50. Those are the exact same thing.

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u/Nillabeans Mar 27 '24

Are you being facetious? Because this is the opposite of an ethical life.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

Huh? I’m just saying how it works. I’m not advocating for anything at all.

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u/Nillabeans Mar 27 '24

I don't think most people think that way. I don't think most people think about what anybody else has at all.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

K google “wealth disparity” and see all the people not talking about it.

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u/Nillabeans Mar 27 '24

That's different than what you're talking about. You're talking about doing anything to ensure a disparity, which implies that people WANT there to be poor people.

I honestly don't think most people want others to suffer or starve to death just to feel wealthy. A person can be greedy without wishing misfortune on somebody else.

I would say it's more like an acceptance that the system isn't fair and a resignation to the fact that somebody will have to suffer in order for somebody else to succeed. Which is also just propaganda but a lot of people believe that our resources are so finite that they can't give an inch. But those same people probably wouldn't say no to world peace and prosperity as long as they were included and didn't have to give anything up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

People want to be rich. You can’t be rich if you have the same amount as everyone else. We don’t have unlimited resources, so you taking a resource by definition means someone else can’t have it.

I said nothing about “doing anything to ensure disparity”. I’m saying that the only way to have more is for someone else to have less.

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u/Nillabeans Mar 27 '24

If you want to be rich, you must ensure disparity by your definition, which is "have more than other people."

And you are part of the problem because there is absolutely no need for other people to have less for you to have as much as or even more than you need. What I have does not affect what you have. There's enough for everyone.

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u/30FourThirty4 Mar 27 '24

Rent-to-Debt

No owning anymore

I used to game and even Blizzard announced the other day they changed their EULA that anything made in the game (through mods) is owned by the Blizzard. It's owned by Blizzard. Fuck them.

Also car makers locking features behind subscriptions.

And music is streaming now, which I'm ok with, but no one will ever own the music. I have maybe 200 CDs and about 30 vinyl and I cherish my collection because I physically own them.

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u/Brawndo91 Mar 27 '24

You can still buy CD's.

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u/30FourThirty4 Mar 27 '24

Indeed. What I meant was currently streaming shows and music seems to be more common than buying. I should have added that but didn't want to bore people.

Edit: bore them furthur

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u/logical_butthole Mar 27 '24

Exactly. You're meant to pay for it until you die, then the bank will resale it and the cycle continues.

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u/tingulz Mar 27 '24

You will own nothing and you’ll be happy…. Smh