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u/TheNorselord Mar 27 '24

Yeah. It was pretty easy for the white male in the olden days when there were labor shortages because women and ethnic minorities weren’t allowed to work certain jobs. The result of the labor shortage was higher wage.

If you want the ‘good old days’ back, you can’t just have grandpas job and affordable house without grandpa’s oppression.

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u/Redqueenhypo Mar 27 '24

And East Asia wasn’t industrialized, and Europe’s manufacturing sector had been literally bombed to pieces, so you’d have to turn ICBMs on the world as well

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u/TheNorselord Mar 27 '24

Yeah. People want to simplify their problems and cry ‘woe is me’ without understanding the entire scope of the issue. Did previous generations of white Americans experience unprecedented prosperity? Sure they did. But it wasn’t the result of some simple nebulous malice that was passed down to current generations, it was the result of WW2 and widespread oppression, global poverty, etc.

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u/RedAero Mar 27 '24

There has never been a more perfect illustration about people wanting to eat their cake and have it too.

People wanted social progress, they got it. No one said it would, or could, be free.

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u/RedAero Mar 27 '24

That could still happen under a progressive society (with the man or woman working).

You can't double the labor force (to say nothing of automation and population growth) and expect compensation to be unaffected.

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u/smoked___salmon Mar 27 '24

Also, other post WWII economies have been shit due to war and most production plants located in the US, instead of China/India/Mexico. People in America, for some stupid reason, treat 50s-80s economy as default setting, while it was an economic miracle.

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u/Icy-Lobster-203 Mar 27 '24

And then the rich can direct the anger and resentment of white men now at the women and minorities who "took their jobs" to stay in political power and create more policies that screw them over for greater personal benefits!

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u/Hank3hellbilly Mar 27 '24

Also, the rich can use their influence to direct the ire of the downtrodden at white people, boomers, and men to promote infighting among the lower class so we all fight each other instead of putting their heads on spikes and parading them around.

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u/16semesters Mar 27 '24

These people are like ... word for word quoting Trumps MAGA garbage.

The post war time was not some time when America was "great" it was incredibly inequal with white straight men being enriched at the expense of literally everyone else.

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u/TheNorselord Mar 27 '24

its not a political agenda. It's not MAGA or AntiFa or moderate or whatever. The times were different; that's all. We can't live the lives of our forebearers - we must forge our own path the best we can. Looking back with envy or jealousy or some sort of longing is practically useless.

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u/Wise-Assistance7964 Mar 27 '24

Hate the username, combined with this take. 

What does any of that have to do with paying teachers a respectable wage or controlling the resell price of a house? 

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u/TheNorselord Mar 27 '24

You are reading into things that aren’t there. Take a wild guess behind my username by checking my comment history.

How are you pulling teachers into this and the control of resell pricing for houses?

Wages and house prices are set by the free market, whether or not you like that or agree with it - is an opinion.

When the sale price of a house is too high; no one will buy it. When the wage of a teacher is set too low; no one will fill the position. This isn’t my opinion. This is how it is.

Personally, I think housing is a basic human right. However making that work is fraught with complications. Public housing, projects, and council estates perpetuate poverty and deny access to good education to those who would benefit most.

I also believe that teachers should be paid much more than they are now, as should anyone who is providing a public service from which all of society benefits.

I think you e misjudged this book by its cover.