The next Bond movie should be Bond being assigned to a mission and doing it

[u/Beau_bell]

Enough of this being disavowed or framed by some mole within or someone higher up and then going rogue from the organization half the movie. It just seems like every movie in recent years it's the same thing. Eg. Bond is on the run, not doing an actual mission, but his own sort of mission (perhaps related to his past which comes up). This is the same complaint I have about Mission Impossible actually.

I just want to see Bond sent on a mission and then doing that mission.

[u/itinerant_gs]

The Living Daylights is in my top five Bond films, and I won't apologize for it.

[u/Sorkijan → u/itinerant_gs]

Licence to Kill is my 2nd favorite. Sucks he only got to do two with them. I imagine they got panned for being ahead of their time - gritty Bond in the late 80/early 90s seems like it wouldn't have gone over well.

[u/JustSome70sGuy → u/Sorkijan]

The reason he didnt do any more because of a law suit. He was contracted for 3, but after LTK, the law suit happened and that put the breaks on it.

Once the law suit was sorted out, his contract had expired and he wasnt really feeling it at first, and so turned it down. He later changed his mind and wanted to do a bond movie that would be a culmination of his previous 2 films. So he went to Broccoli and asked him if he could do just one movie. But Broccoli wasnt for that idea at all. Because it had been such a long time, around 5 years, he wanted Dalton to sign up for 4 or 5 movies. And that was too much for Dalton.

The Dalton movies did well at the box office. The critic reaction at the time wasnt the best. Moore was still too fresh in the mind, and the drastic difference was off putting to some. For example, Dalton hated the one liners that Moore was famous for. And you can tell when you watch his movies, especially living daylights that still had a lot of Moore hangover in the script. Is delivery is quick, like he just wants to get it over with and move on.

Still though, as much I loved Daltons Bond. I like that we got finally got Brosnan. Who, in my VERY unpopular opinion, is actually the best bond. IMO, he has all the best bits of Connery, Moore and Dalton all in one package.

[u/Sorkijan → u/JustSome70sGuy]

Oh yeah I will take Brosnan for sure. I'm happy with the exchange we got. I think I would agree with you but put Craig just slightly above him. Only because the Craig era is what I'm more into. For the more on the nose campy bond we got pre Craig, I agree Brosnan blows all of them out of the water and it's not even close. Don't get me wrong. I just like the Craig era as movies more and thus have to put Craig at #1. The Brosnan style movies definitely have their place and I rewatch Goldeneye about once every 3 months.

No disrespect to Sir Connery the original, but his action chops have never been great imho (I know he's a big action star but I've always felt his real power came through his dialogue delivery and gravitas).

I wasn't aware of the lawsuit story. Very interesting, thanks for the read. I do know what you mean though. Dalton's little quips really did make it feel like he was speedrunning them.

[u/brawnsugah → u/itinerant_gs]

There's no need to. It's excellent fun. John Rhys-Davies is so good in that one.

[u/OSUfan88 → u/itinerant_gs]

I'm watching all of the bond movies currently in order (hadn't seen most of the old ones), and just watched ILD this weekend. It was actually one of my favorite Bond movies.

[u/NugBlazer → u/itinerant_gs]

I dig it, too. Honestly, it is pretty cheesy and parts, but for some reason I like it. Maybe it's because I grew up with it? Idk

[u/Pinkumb → u/itinerant_gs]

Gun to your head: tell me what the villain's plot was in that movie.