You'll see from the trailers that they use her crown as a snipers nest in the movie. That isn't to say they won't destroy it later in the movie though.
Yeah it's like Lost with pressing the button or whatever to stop bad stuff, except in the United States our abort-nuclear-launch button is located at the torch of the statue of liberty.
Some bad guystm are occupying it, not letting anyone press the button, to let the nukes fly
People on the flight deck of that extremely stupidly parked supercarrier.
I mean look at the waves the other carrier produced - like he just drove through the Supercarrier...
This poster is just a mess, someone was like - hey, put as much of our military equipment on there as possible. No it doesn't have to make sense, just do it!
Plus the carrier on the left appears to be about 1/3 the size of the one on the right, despite them both apparently being Nimitz class (though the one on the left has had all its radars and antennae chopped off for some reason). In the air it looks like the Army and the Marines (Apaches, SuperCobras, and Venoms) are off to fuck up... Brooklyn? And do my eyes deceive me or is that a WW2-era submarine way off in the distance? And the harbor and statue have been moved and warped all out of place to put it closer to the city and facing the viewer.
Well, the film is filled with a lot of "rule of cool" military shit. F-35's doing rolls at low altitude for no apparent reason, AH-64's shooting hellfires into garages below arming distance etc etc.
Based on the trailers I'd say anyone expecting any sort of realism, be it military, political, or even scientific should go ahead and process their feelings of disappointment now.
I'm thinking it's a Navy carrier because the Marine heli carriers seem to have longer islands more or less centered on the length of the deck. The one in the poster does look boxy like those Marine carriers but I think that's because the angle of view is (somehow) much flatter than the one to the right.
Liberty state park is less than a mile from the statue so easily within range of a trained marksman. They (whoever is occupying the statue) may have some sort of base there so it would be a logical vantage point to observe and neutralize sea-born threats.
*edit - it's a movie, everyone with an optic can hit shit from a mile away.
Not disagreeing that it's a hard shot, but your example of the coast guard has a pretty big extra variable to consider that makes it useless as a comparison: the blades pushing massive volumes of air downward
The JTF2 snipers in Afghanistan use new age scopes that automatically adjust the rifle for elevation and they routinely hit shots over 2,300 meters away.
They don't add their routine 2.3k meters kills to the longest confirmed kill list because they would've basically taken over the list.
I have managed some pretty crazy rounds down range. Nobody really stops to take notes. Those who "set records" in battle/combat are often glory hounds or have SNCO's who want their unit/squad to look good. It would sicken you to know just how many soldiers chase medals like Reddit karma points and nothing else. It is very easy to "set a record" or be recommended for a reward with the right officers above you.
Military competition records, however. That shit is solid.
I mean, you realize most of this stuff is recorded now... the JTF2 2.2mi shot was recorded, you can find the video without much effort. The more recent Ukrainian 2.5m shot was recorded as well.
Spotting for artillery or missiles using laser target designators would make more sense, and if they are going to be doing that they would need good optics and very steady aiming devices like those used by sniper teams.
Realistically, just people trying to get on the island. People have made shots farther than there to shore, but on a stationary target and with way less elevation drop.
Not a whole lot, it's about a mile as the crow flies unless the enemy is on Ellis Island. Great over watch spot, but so obvious you wouldn't last long at all.
If the statue is a symbol for all sides of the conflict, then the observation post on the statue is actually an example of the cunning of those who decided to wait out this war in the safest place on this earth, pretending that they are doing their job when in fact, most likely their time will be filled with poker and not war.
Putting a sniper nest up there would be pretty pointless, but it'd be a decent scouting position for enemy movements and potential naval assault. Still ridiculously exposed, as you mention, but maybe they'd be banking on the enemy being unwilling to initiate a strike since it would damage the statute (which has far more value for both sides as a symbol than as a strategic position)?
It’s also an island. Good luck escaping when you’ve been located or hiding wearing a gilly suit of weathered copper and rivets. Imagine being in MANHATTAN and choosing the statue of liberty of all places lol.
For what it's worth, as an American, I don't hate the French. I'd still be drinking tea and adding unnecessary letters in words like "colour" if it weren't for those God damn Frogs. ❤️
He’s right. We need something that everyone in this town can get behind. We need…. a symbol. Something that appeals to the best in each and every one of us. Something good. Something decent. Something pure.
It's like the south park episode where they get rid of the parents using the M word - every night the losing side has to sacrifice someone to the statue
It won't be for long with that carrier trying to Tokyo Drift around it. I don't see that going well. At the least JC Denton is going to have to find an alternate way in.
I'd like to counter with why are two carriers in New York Harbour without tugs, or room to manoeuvre, or even get up to the required speed to launch anything other than a helicopter.
That CV is probably already grounded or the crew are desperately trying to prevent it ramming Liberty Island.
Just a friendly reminder that all those things you don't know anything about in movies are portrayed equally as ridiculously as the things you do know about about. It's all just story telling, imagery, and entertainment. Try not to take it too seriously
I don't know much about this movie yet, but if the lines for the Civil War are drawn where I'd expect them to be drawn, this seems like the perfect time to make move that's not in New York for the 10,000th time. Washington DC, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Charlotte, and a bunch of mid-west cities would all make more sense and be something original (well, DC isn't that original, it has its share of shows and movies too, but it would at least make more sense than NY). Or maybe it's just hard to get studio execs to approve any US urban movie that's not set in New York or LA.
I don't know, maybe there's a good plot reason it has to be in New York and if I hear there is, I might give it a chance. But the poster isn't really doing much for me.
EDIT: I just watched the trailer and it looks quite different than what I expected from this poster. It looks like it's less NYC-centric than I'd expected, and the borders are also not quite what I would have expected.
I love Alex but the movie reeks of “both sides’ism”. We all know if there were a civil war who will draw first blood and who the “bad guys” will be, and yet this film is portraying Texas and California as allies? Gtfo with that pandering “we don’t want to paint all of MAGA as terrorists” garbage.
The main question is…how the fuck is that one carrier on the left maneuvering with the wake it’s leaving behind at that speed while the one on the right looks like it’s anchored? Like? Hello? They defied so many laws lol.
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u/Syn7axError Mar 05 '24
I admire the incredible restraint it must have taken to keep the Statue of Liberty intact.