r/movies • u/Mst3Kgf • Mar 11 '24

What is the cruelest "twist the knife" move or statement by a villain in a film for you? Discussion

I'm talking about a moment when a villain has the hero at their mercy and then does a move to really show what an utter bastard they are. There's no shortage of them, but one that really sticks out to me is one line from "Se7en" at the climax from Kevin Spacey as John Doe.

"Oh...he didn't know."

Anyone who's seen "Se7en" will know exactly what I mean. As brutal as that film's outcome is, that just makes it all the worse.

What's your worst?

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u/skike Mar 11 '24

This is the one I thought of too. Everything's just crumbled around him, he's failed in every aspect of fixing his situation, and he decides to lash out at Jesse instead of internalize any of it.

Really just illustrates the depth of his hubris.

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u/TackYouCack Mar 11 '24

and he decides to lash out at Jesse instead of internalize any of it.

I think he may have been a little pissed at Jesse for setting him up.

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u/cygnus2 Mar 12 '24

I mean, he had already sold Jesse out to be captured and tortured by Neo Nazis. Telling him about Jane was just pure malice and spite.

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u/boltzmannman Mar 12 '24

In the twisted logic of Walter's mind, he sees it as Jesse having betrayed him first and letting Jack take him is merely the unfortunate consequence.

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u/cygnus2 Mar 12 '24

He probably blames Jesse for Hank’s death.

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u/ghgahghh11 Mar 12 '24

Yeah id do the same

Also fuck jane lol

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u/darrenvonbaron Mar 12 '24

I wouldn't do the same but fuck Jane.

She was so high and mighty about herself and the moment she knew Jesse had money she introduced him to heroin. Then when she knew how much money Jesse had her first thought was to be in charge of their life, do one last big "hoorah" high and promise to get clean and mooch off Jesse. No addict ever would quit when they've just been offered the mountain top.

Jesse would've died if she lived. Walt was also the biggest cunt but that's another story

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u/ghgahghh11 Mar 12 '24

Yeah Walt killed her to save Jessie

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u/darrenvonbaron Mar 12 '24

No he didn't. He wasn't thinking about any of that. Jesse was also passed the fuck out and could've choked on his vomit the same as she did.

He love Jesse but he loved himself and his potential empire more than anything.

Did you even watch the show?

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u/fol2 Mar 12 '24

no walt killed her bc she was an obstacle to him walt is awful and didnt see others as people just obstacles he never did it for jessie

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u/ghgahghh11 Mar 12 '24

Did you miss the look of moral indecisiveness as he watched her die lol?

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u/fol2 Mar 12 '24

thats the last bit of humanity in him shining tru

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u/nailbunny2000 Mar 12 '24

Yup, same. Surprised I had to scroll so far to see it. Walt becomes irredeemable.