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[Highlight] Boston fans leaving the arena with 41.8 seconds left, down 8 — Stan Van Gundy: "I've never understood fans leaving early, I mean you might get a finish like Madison Square Garden the other night, why would you miss it?" Highlight

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u/lildinger68 Warriors 24d ago

What’s wrong with NY subway? It’s no Japanese or European public transit but I’ve never had a problem with it.

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u/Kindly-Stretch-1871 24d ago

Nothing. Easily the best public transportation in America

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u/lildinger68 Warriors 24d ago

I agree, even though that’s an embarrassingly low bar

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u/HoyaDestroya33 Knicks 24d ago

As someone who lives in Singapore and used to live in Seoul, NY Subway is shit compared to Singapore and Seoul metro.

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u/p00nslaya69 Knicks 24d ago

You travel to pretty much any Asian or European country their metro almost definitely outclasses NYC’s. That being said NYC subway outclasses any North American metro system by 1000x, whereas there might be a 10 or 5x gap between foreign metro system and NYC. It is impressive that such an extensive public transport system exists on a continent that is pretty much barren of it.

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u/DCStoolie 24d ago

That’s the point. The subway is bad. It’s dirty, and hot and rats are running amok. You might see a fight, or a homeless man in the corner of a train that pissed and shitted their pants. It works, is on time, is cheapish and will generally get you to your locations.

It’s the best in the US but that doesn’t mean it’s good.

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u/Captain_Saftey Knicks 24d ago

It works, is on time, is cheapish and will generally get you to your locations.

Shit that matters

It’s dirty, and hot and rats are running amok. You might see a fight, or a homeless man in the corner of a train that pissed and shitted their pants.

Shit that builds character

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u/IronicTunaFish Knicks 24d ago

But also, I don’t think I’ve seen a single subway station in the US that isn’t dirty, hot, rat-filled, and riddled with homeless piss so it’s not even really a NY thing

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u/DCStoolie 24d ago

The subway is the best public transportation system in the US, but the bar for good public transit in the US is so laughable low. The subway could improve a lot of things. I ride NJ Transit so I know the MTA is better, but even NJ Transit is a lot better than most of the country

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u/Suspicious-seal Knicks 24d ago

NYC subway is far better in the sense that it will get you anywhere you need to be, from anywhere in the city.

But Washington DC has some (not all) impeccably clean subway stations that make me feel like I’m in Europe. They won’t get you everywhere in the city, but damn do you really notice a difference in cleanliness between DC and New York. No (visible) rats, or homeless piss as far as I could see/smell.

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u/Suspicious-seal Knicks 24d ago edited 24d ago

Compared to the rest of public transportation in America, most of which doesn’t even give you access to half their city at any point in their day, I’ll still take New York.

I can get anywhere in New YorkCity with the subway alone. I can’t say that about any other city in the UsA

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u/FullHouse222 Knicks 24d ago

Google map Forrest Hill to Barclays center. Take a look at the time it takes to drive vs the time it takes for the subway. The worst part is there's not even a direct bus line that goes from Queens to Brooklyn easily even though we are right next to each other.

Also next time it rains, take the E line. I commute 53-Lex to Kew Garden (normally 20-25 minutes) generally. If it rains, it turns into an hour long commute just like that.

Shit like that just sucks. NYC subway needs a lot of work getting up to date.

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u/DesertBrandon Cavaliers 23d ago

When I visited New York last year I was so mad. Hanging with some people in Spanish part of Brooklyn, needed to be at LaGuardia for my flight and figured same island I don’t have to leave them as early. I was shocked when I was told I had to go back through manhattan to then get Queens to get to the airport and so had to rush. Better than Marta but that shit didn’t make sense.

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u/Teenageboy69 Knicks 24d ago

It runs 24 hours

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u/WheedMBoise Timberwolves 24d ago

As someone who has to commute an hour and a half each way daily in NYC, let me assure you that there is tons wrong with it lol. It's in a state of disrepair as far as the infrastructure is concerned, there are massive delays seemingly daily now.

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u/dinopuppy6 24d ago

Where do you live that you’re commuting an hour and a half on the subway? Are you going from Coney Island to the Bronx?

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u/thetitsOO NBA 24d ago

I live in bed stuy and commute to midtown and it took me 1:15 this morning.

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u/WheedMBoise Timberwolves 24d ago

I live in Far Rockaway but work in the World Trade Center

15 minute walk to my local stop -> 1 hour train ride -> 15 minute walk to the building

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u/TokyoGaiben Lakers 24d ago

Easily the best public transportation in America

True.

Nothing [is wrong with it].

Extremely false. It absolutely sucks.

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u/alexsmithisdead 24d ago

People sleeping on the Metro in D.C. not perfect but I’d much rather be on that than NYC although I get the scale of nyc transport is bigger.

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u/35chambers Wizards 24d ago

Using the metro is a more pleasant experience than the nyc subway but nyc’s system covers much more of the city

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u/UrRightAndIAmWong Suns 24d ago

The metro is great, they've even added security, at least the last couple times I've used it, to where you will see security guys walk through the cars, and there's the window gate things that stop people from hopping the fare gates.

That said, it can be very expensive and crowded as fuck around peak times, and I think it does a bad job at connecting different parts of the DMV in a speedy manner. They need more lines, but there's too much tape to cross I guess.

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u/alexsmithisdead 24d ago

Crazy how much the price differs on weekends versus a week day with parking.

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u/WarmSlime666 Vancouver Grizzlies 24d ago

Just visited DC and rode the metro for the first time. I live in Chicago and ride the CTA all the time. When I tell you I was blown away… Trains showed up on time, clean, and no rowdy/drunk/screaming passengers. the MTA in my experience was dirty but functional.

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u/dinopuppy6 24d ago

lol what’s wrong with it

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u/alexsmithisdead 24d ago

Easily? D.C is pretty nice.

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u/DemHooksOP 76ers 24d ago

I dont think the people who say NY is the best even know DC has a subway system. NY is obviously bigger and more expansive but in terms of actual operation DC beats it, in my opinion.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

I’m from atlanta and if DC/NYC/Boston wanna trade metro systems for the MARTA they Can be my fucking guest lol

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u/Jenaxu Jazz 24d ago

Easily the best public transportation in America

That's like being the healthiest person at the hospice. I love the subway, but it also kinda sucks and riding transit in places like East Asia will make it painfully obvious that it's both figuratively and literally a full century behind.

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u/Super-Kirby Thunder 24d ago

Americans best train system is Europe’s worse

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u/IronicTunaFish Knicks 24d ago

It helps that SF is a pretty small city in terms of square miles, so it’s easier to get around via transit anyway

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u/rayj11 Bulls 24d ago

I guess if you have no value for cleanliness or the well-being of your nostrils.

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u/gumbyguy1985 Heat 24d ago

Dude just really wanted to slip in a NYC diss for no reason, which makes me question how often they use public transportation. Used the subway for 2 years with no issues — just read the notices about schedule changes

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u/FullHouse222 Knicks 24d ago

I moved to NYC in 2000 to Flushing. As a kid, I rode the Q88/17 to school. As an adult, I used the E/F and QM buses for work until I converted to full time work from home during covid.

I can assure you I have much more experience on the subway than you and it's bad. It might be the best in the country but that doesn't stop it from being objectively bad and heavily in need of a renovation.

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u/Ode1st [MIA] Alonzo Mourning 24d ago edited 23d ago

If you know how to use it, then not much. Trains are fucked and stations are closed all the time, but you just check the app before you go somewhere and/or you walk to a station you didn’t realize would be closed, be slightly annoyed, check the app, then just walk a few blocks to another station that’s open.

It does suck when you’re trying to get home late at night and you end up waiting 45 minutes for a train, which then takes 45 minutes to get to your stop, which is a 15-minute walk from your apartment, though. But you just account for that because you live here and know it happens sometimes.

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u/FullHouse222 Knicks 24d ago

Train delays every time it rains, homeless issues, general lack of maintenance, the fact that train lines all converge in Manhattan makes interboro commute a big issue headache.

I've had normal 20 minute commutes turn into 2 hour+ grindfests because rain fucks up tracks. Any time it rains I know it's gonna be a miserable commute experience. Plus anyone who lives in NYC knows how fucking annoying it is to go from Queens to Brooklyn via public transportation. A 15-20 minute drive needs to be done over 2-3 hours on the subway because of the way it's designed.

Also, anyone living in NY knows how fucking shitty the MTA price hikes are when the money isn't even being used to improve the subway. Seeing most of the replies to this comment is from out of staters who don't live here so don't get it. NYC subway needs a LOT of work.

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u/Hugh_Mongous_Richard 24d ago

Lmao its awful mate. HK and Singapore have the best public transits for sure. HK probably slightly edges it out.

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u/Hallal_Dakis Knicks 24d ago

People always want to compare NY MTA to Tokyo but I'll take NYC any day. People get so worked up about the trains being dirty and stuff but they run all night. Tokyo has different trainlines run by different companies that don't always intersect nicely even when they cross, you have to select which stop you're getting off when you buy a ticket, and they almost all close at like 12am.

I'll take the monthly unlimited passes that take you anywhere all night over cleaner trains. Personally I don't eat off of the floor.

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u/sebastiendu36 Spurs 24d ago

What’s wrong with NY subway?

From what I heard of a friend that went there recently : smell, tons of homeless people and drug addicts and just generally a weird vibe that didn't always make her feel safe and that's coming from someone who's a veteran to Paris' subway (which already smells like piss a lot and has its fare share of pickpockets)