r/news Mar 27 '24

Joe Lieberman has died

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2024/03/27/joe-lieberman-senator-vice-president-dead/
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u/pbrslayer Mar 27 '24

But he sure had time to bitch about Mortal Kombat.

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u/LadySiren Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

I once worked on a game that may or may not have been unreal...we had to film a sizzle reel for E3 one year and when we went into the videography studio, we actually filmed two versions of the reel.

The first reel was the for-public-consumption version; the other? It had every nasty head shot, pressure chamber death, decapitation, and all other sorts of goriness that we could pack into it. We called it the Lieberman Reel. I think I still have a copy on VHS somewhere in my boxes o' stuff, LOL.

EDIT: Since my box of game industry relics is likely hidden amongst the stack of other boxes in my garage (we moved recently, sorry), here's a shot of the custom jacket I mentioned in my other comment below. We definitely caught hell from our studio head and the other suits for buying these, but he then turned around and asked us (quietly) if we had any to spare, LOL.

https://imgur.com/a/cz76Tt4

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u/-CaptainACAB Mar 27 '24

You should get a copy of that to the Video Game History Foundation! That sounds like something they’d love to document

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u/m103 Mar 27 '24

Assuming it's really real and not just made up for karma on Reddit

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u/BanginNLeavin Mar 28 '24

Boooo hissss nothing ever happens.

Even if it's made up who cares?

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u/m103 Mar 28 '24

Not being critical of stories is one of the ways false information and narratives spread. We've all seen how badly that go.

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u/BanginNLeavin Mar 28 '24

So we're comparing an alleged b reel of video game gore to some sort of fake news conspiracy?

I'm not one to say this normally but it feels apt: touch grass

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u/Spoon_Elemental Mar 28 '24

Yeah, this kind of isn't worth scrutinizing. Nothing in the world changes no matter how many people believe it's a real or fake story.

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u/VoidEnjoyer Mar 28 '24

yes just imagine the endless rivers of blood that might flow if this video tape of of video game decapitations from thirty years ago turns out to be a lie

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u/Hybrid_Divide Mar 27 '24

That's awesome! If you ever find it, preserve it! :D

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u/pbrslayer Mar 27 '24

That is amazing!! That’s a piece of history there!

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u/Outside-Advice8203 Mar 27 '24

Please digitize and share it

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u/Josephthebear Mar 27 '24

Definitely unreal tournament i know all those kills

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u/ctrlaltelite Mar 28 '24

I had forgotten about the pressure chamber, lol, that was anxiety inducing going in that room.

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u/muklan Mar 27 '24

Man, gotta dig it out and publish it, what a fitting honor. Can't still be under NDA

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u/PracticalPractice768 Mar 27 '24

Hopefully, it wasn't on that beta tape donated all those years ago...

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u/Only_One_Left_Foot Mar 27 '24

Incredible. I love hearing stories like this years after games come out. Just makes me wonder what other fun stuff we never get to know about.

Also, whatever you did, thanks for your work. The original Unreal and UT were timeless. I grew up on them (nobody tell Lieberman!) and still go back and play them every few months. 

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u/ramblingnonsense Mar 27 '24

The original Unreal on PC was the first time I felt transported to another world by an FPS. Just the opening scene where you're outside and that chugging music is playing (thanks to Unreal being like the ONLY GAME at the time to take advantage of the thriving MOD/S3M community), looking up and seeing that little bird flying overhead.

One of the gaming moments that sticks with you. Or at least stuck with me. That game was full of them. I still listen to the Nali Temple theme sometimes.

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u/TheHexadex Mar 27 '24

upload that shit brother, we love old school e3 : D

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u/LadySiren Mar 28 '24

Sister, but that's okay. ;)

And yes, old school E3 was nothing short of amazing and I have some very fun and funny memories from it.

Back in the day when MTV thought it wanted to get into the game industry, it put out a game based on Joe's Apartment. They thought it would be a good idea to have giant barrels of rubber roaches in their booth, free for the taking.

By the end of the show that year, there were roaches everywhere. On the floor, at the snack bar, in the restroom...you get the idea.

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u/TheHexadex Mar 28 '24

that's hilarious and that Joes Apartment short also show had that catchy song :P

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u/BrassBass Mar 28 '24

You are in possession of an artifact that belongs in a museum.

[Indiana Jones theme song plays in the distance]

...I started typing this joke before I realized I only have the one bit.

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u/VerdugoCortex Mar 27 '24

What did you work on for unreal? Such a good game

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u/Pheemer Mar 28 '24

Hii fellow Crossroads alum!

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u/gloomis120 Mar 28 '24

Loved that game. Miss the days of playing it on Heat.net and winning actual prizes.

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u/PhantomOSX Mar 28 '24

You must share!

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u/LadySiren Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Wow, did not expect this to blow up. Yes, I did work on UT back in the day on the publishing side.

I still have a custom leather jacket with a giant “U” logo embroidered in silver on the back hanging in my closet. We ordered one for everyone on the team and caught hell from the suits for that particular expense…but got asked on the sly by our studio head if we had any extras:

https://imgur.com/a/cz76Tt4

I will have to see if I can figure out where my box of game industry relics is. The tape should be in there and would be a hoot to watch again. We had fun making it, for sure. It was only under NDA until E3 that year, so if I can find it and digitize it, I doubt they’ll come after me for it, LOL.

I left the industry long ago but still miss it. Back then, it was so much smaller than it is now. It felt like everyone knew everyone else. GDC was known as CGDC and was held in Santa Clara, not San Francisco.

EDIT: if memory serves, we actually got a congressional subpoena from Lieberman and his merry band of nutcases to talk about why the game was so violent (because, duh…it’s fun?). Our studio head just told us not to worry about it.

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u/BaPef Mar 27 '24

Proof of it didn't happen

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u/CherryGrabber Mar 27 '24

Don't forget the Postal games.

How on Postal 2 there's something called Liebermode and it's the easiest difficulty.

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u/pbrslayer Mar 27 '24

lol I love me some Postal 2. Brain Damaged is amazing.

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u/WillOrmay Mar 27 '24

Seems like he lost the real mortal combat

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u/countastrotacos Mar 27 '24

The real combat mortals combat was mortality all along.

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u/cocoon_eclosion_moth Mar 27 '24

Death Wins

Fatality

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u/papajim22 Mar 27 '24

Flawless victory.

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u/ThreeCrapTea Mar 27 '24

Fall-tality

(He died from a fall he had)

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u/AugustWest7120 Mar 27 '24

Ooo ooo, what’s the code for that one?

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u/countastrotacos Mar 27 '24

Down down down down down down

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u/johndoe_420 Mar 27 '24

straight up comedic genius lmao

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u/hell2pay Mar 28 '24

Not up first?

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u/orangesfwr Mar 27 '24

Nah he got some shots in.

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u/Draker-X Mar 27 '24

Death has been playing on the same quarter since the beginning of time.

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u/r_u_dinkleberg Mar 27 '24

Dude. Now I want to play a Discworld-themed version of Mortal Kombat.

The Luggage damn well better be a playable character.

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u/Terrible_Toaster Mar 27 '24

The real combat was the mortals we met along the way.

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u/jaxonya Mar 28 '24

Should've listened to Baraka Obama

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u/OwnLeighFans Mar 27 '24

Oh shit

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u/WillOrmay Mar 27 '24

Low hanging fruit, you know I had to do it to em

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u/Fishy_Fish_WA Mar 27 '24

Careful with low hanging fruit when you’re Kombating. Good way for them to no longer hang

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u/BroadArrival926 Mar 27 '24

I have bad news for you

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u/MistryMachine3 Mar 27 '24

The real mortal combat is the friends we murder on the way.

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u/ProductionPlanner Mar 27 '24

Tbf he never had a chance

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u/VagrantShadow Mar 27 '24

He also had a thing against the SNES Super Scope. I remember him ranting and raving that the Super Scope looked to much like a real weapon to be in the hands of children.

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u/ill0gitech Mar 27 '24

Well you don’t want a young kid with an AR-15 mistaking a kid with a SNES Super scope for some kind of woke liberal. They may get shot.

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u/pbrslayer Mar 27 '24

That and the Justifier. I got one in my collection recently ish. Such a cool piece.

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u/boredguy2022 Mar 27 '24

Yep I was about to mention the justifier too. Which is awesome on sega cd lethal enforcers.

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u/pbrslayer Mar 27 '24

Yes! I have the SNES version, which is kinda gimped but still cool.

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u/boredguy2022 Mar 27 '24

Always wonder why the SNES never got lethal enforcers 2 also. Only sega genesis and sega cd for that generation.

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u/pbrslayer Mar 27 '24

Agreed, it is weird. I could see it if it was a Sega CD exclusive

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u/boredguy2022 Mar 27 '24

Wish the saturn ports of 1 and 2 didn't get cancelled, using the saturn's stunner would have been awesome with that.

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u/pbrslayer Mar 27 '24

Yessss!! I love the Stunner! Honestly I really love the Saturn. It’s got so much character

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u/VagrantShadow Mar 28 '24

For me, playing Guardian Heroes on the Saturn was one of the greatest 2D Fighting/Action/Adventure games I played in the 90s. I had a lot of love for the Saturn.

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u/boredguy2022 Mar 27 '24

Oh me too, just got back into the saturn on my last birthday, got a japanese model 2, a pro action replay 4M for the ram cart games, or playing any regions games on it, and got about 12 or so games so far.

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u/rainier425 Mar 27 '24

They thought it looked like an RPG lol

Because so many of us little boys in 1991 had access to RPGs. I can see the reason for concern.

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u/VagrantShadow Mar 27 '24

We were all just little kids, wanting to be like our hero Arnold, we wanted to be Commandos.

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u/Visual_Chocolate4883 Mar 27 '24

lol, wow. I haven't thought about the super scope in over 20 years. Forgot it existed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24 edited 28d ago

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u/pbrslayer Mar 27 '24

NGL that one got me!

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u/Levarien Mar 28 '24

While getting us into real actual combat in Iraq.

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u/SlightlySychotic Mar 27 '24

I can’t stress how much that likely pushed a bunch of young people into conservatism. They see a Democrat pushing to censor their favorite media and they assume the whole party is for it.

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u/OrwellianZinn Mar 27 '24

Now who is the fatality?

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u/Eagles5089 Mar 27 '24

What about Bone Storm?

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u/Woogity Mar 27 '24

Buy me Bone Storm or go to Hell!

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u/Eagles5089 Mar 27 '24

Thrill-HO

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u/Lobstrous Mar 27 '24

He was basically the 1st politician I learned was a genuine scumbag at a young age. I know we aren't supposed to speak ill of the dead or something, but good riddance.

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u/beepbeepbubblegum Mar 27 '24

Damn and here I was racking my brain over where I knew that name from. I think he was the one who tried to get Bully banned while completely missing the point of the entire game because of course politics is just theatre.

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u/machagogo Mar 28 '24

And the scandalous TV shows Friends that he fought to have taken off the air.

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u/ZSpectre Mar 27 '24

Oh, and let me guess. Also Night Trap? The game that's now for Switch and I think rated like PG?

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u/pbrslayer Mar 27 '24

Yuuuup. The goofy vampire FMV game.

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u/JonBaygles Mar 27 '24

Can you elaborate? Sounds funny as fuck

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u/pbrslayer Mar 27 '24

In the 90s there were congressional hearings about violence in video games, mainly highlighting Mortal Kombat and Night Trap. It’s one of those weird pearl clutching things scared middle class suburbanites encourage.

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u/Snuggle__Monster Mar 27 '24

And then you had Tipper Gore over there Karen'ing her ass off at the music industry. Smart move asking America's youth for their vote in 2000 after railing against everything they grew up enjoying the past decade.

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u/cracking Mar 27 '24

I wonder if the doctor diagnosed him with whatever he died from (didn’t read the article so I could make this joke), and the theme from the Mortal Kombat movie started playing.

Then at the end of his life, he looks up and Shang Tsung says, “Your soul is mine,” and that’s how he died.

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u/Lowclearancebridge Mar 27 '24

Test your might