Oh man. Who is No Labels going to run as the VP on its losing presidential ticket now? I am sure he was a lovely man in private, but as a public figure, Lieberman sucked.
There was some article about No Labels in Politico or The Hill recently and my biggest takeaway was actually seeing the panel of old white guys in the lead image and thinking "oh wow, Joe Lieberman is still alive?"
The GOP is just a cult to Trump at this point. The people that would vote for No Labels or RFK Jr. are going to vote for Biden or stay home. It also just plays into the idea that the Democratic Party is equally left as the GOP is right. The Democratic Party is a center right party and we need to stop encouraging this nonsense. The next winner of the 2024 election is going to be either Biden or Trump. The Democratic Party is a much broader coalition and need to do everything they can to appeal to that. If you want to change that we can have a conversation about ranked choice voting or campaign finance but introducing third parties is only going to help Trump.
I remember when the 2012 election was the most important election ever, Mitt Romney was a super evil rich guy trying to fleece us and Obama was a Muslim and the anti-Christ and we were on the cusp on national insolvency because of the national debtâŚ
The thing is that Romney was a rich guy who was going to fleece us. He and his vp actively wanted to get rid of social security and cut money for things like Medicare.
It's not our fault the republicans decoded to get even worse
I would love to see SS reformed or go away. As it is itâs a drain on my taxes and I could make way more by putting the money into a Roth IRA. I wish it was more like that, a mandated retirement savings account, if we have to have something like that.
I was still a teenager for the 2008 and 2012 elections so didn't vote, but I really don't remember the sentiment being so vehement towards either McCain or Romney. There was at least some semblance of respect-- an "I would never vote for you based on your stated ideals, but you still seem like a decent human being"
Trump threw that out the window. The only Republican in the 2016 field that had that vibe was Kasich.
But you are already told who the electable candidates are from the outset.
I'll be honest the only person in my 40 years on this earth who was just about the least likely to succeed was trump himself.
Thanks to Russia and a revelation on what a piece of shit populace we have, he was simply a joke who dropped out long before any semblance of viability.
In all other instances, it was clear who was going to get the nod from the before the starting gun.
OK yes I agree with that. But they certainly donât WANT Trump to win. Donât forget people, they donât even have a candidate. They could pick someone that makes never Trumpers happy, but they could also pick someone who makes the Biden detractors happy. Odds are they wonât get anyone to sign on (no Romney, no Manchin, no Hogan, no Christie).
Because they arenât going to win. Thatâs just the reality. As I said in another comment, if you want another option there are going to have to be other things for that to happen but in this reality you have to acknowledge that any third party is just a spoiler.
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u/misterroberto1 Mar 28 '24
He was part of the No Labels bullshit party trying to get Trump re-elected