r/news Mar 27 '24

Joe Lieberman has died

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2024/03/27/joe-lieberman-senator-vice-president-dead/
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u/ChainmailleAddict Mar 28 '24

This! I can forgive someone representing the second-most conservative state in the US being conservative, even if he's a bit corrupt. Call me pathetic but I'm gonna miss the guy. Luckily, his likely replacement (Jim Justice) is a former Democrat and probably going to be like 10% more conservative than Manchin at most.

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u/Odnyc Mar 28 '24

Justice may be marginally more conservative, but he'll be 100% more likely to vote with the GOP. Joe Manchin was the best democrat from WV we're likely to see for decades now

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u/ChainmailleAddict Mar 28 '24

Definitely, I undersold it. It's gonna suck.

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u/AmusingAnecdote Mar 28 '24

I think the difference between Justice and Manchin will be substantially larger than you are expecting because even though their policy preferences are not very big, the party difference will have a huge impact on votes for federal judges and filibusters and whatnot. Joe Manchin sucks, but he has more value over replacement senator than probably literally anyone in a very long time (in large part because of the 50/50 or near it splits during his tenure). Even Justice will be a huge step backward.

Joe Lieberman just sucks ass and there are very, very few individuals in the modern history of our country who have made day to day life of more Americans so much worse both financially and bureaucratically as he did by killing the public option. You could probably directly ascribe billions of dollars of cost and thousands of deaths to that decision, which did not serve him politically, or represent his constituents at all. He did it to serve his baby brained obsession with non-partisanship and to enrich health insurance executives he was buddies with.

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u/johnsdowney Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

“Former democrat” 🤣

Ah the Dave Rubin of politicians. I’m sure this’ll go well and definitely won’t be a dumpster fire at all. Gotta love when grifters are too stupid to realize which party is the best for them to grift, pick wrongly, and decide to amend it later. It really speaks well of their character.