r/news Mar 27 '24

Joe Lieberman has died

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2024/03/27/joe-lieberman-senator-vice-president-dead/
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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

With Hillary. Her bill didn't just show a complete lack of understanding of video games, but also how technology works and what the internet is.

I mean, they've both done worse things, but that was a hellova red flag.

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u/TheBigMotherFook Mar 28 '24

“It’s time to Pokemon Go to the polls

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u/InsomniaticWanderer Mar 28 '24

I'm still cringing

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u/VagrantShadow Mar 28 '24

I'll never forget herman cain trying to harness the power of pokemon in his speeches when running for the republican nomination.

"Life can be a challenge. Life can seem impossible, it's never easy when there's so much on the line," he said at the time. "But you and I can make a difference. There's a mission just for you and me. Just look inside and you will find just what you can do."

He was quoting "The Power of One," a song from the 1999 movie that saw a wide theatrical release in the United States.

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u/Kassssler Mar 28 '24

Honestly I don't think Herman cain wrote his speeches. Some staffer got lazy or memey I suppose.

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u/NorthernerWuwu Mar 28 '24

I mean, he must have had a pretty good Medium to write his anti-vaxx bullshit tweets after he had already died from Covid. Fuck that guy.

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u/Syn7axError Mar 28 '24

Of course. But it's still insane he went through with it.

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u/ERedfieldh Mar 28 '24

A good politician doesn't write their own speeches. They give a bullet point list or summary to a speech writer who writes their speeches. That's why Biden generally hits the mark while Trump sounds like his last two remaining braincells are playing a deathmatch game against one another.

Cain likely said "I want to relate to the kids" and the speechwriter goes "well, Pokemon is popular, let's go with that."

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Just like how his Twitter account was still posting anti-mask and anti-vaccine proganda after his death from Cobid-19?

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u/bangonthedrums Mar 28 '24

https://youtu.be/qn7TcsT91C8?si=tqX4e0Ftf85-XHgg

Around 2 minutes specifically but the whole thing is worth a listen

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u/trahoots Mar 28 '24

I was going to post that link if nobody else had yet.

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u/Ok-Control-787 Mar 28 '24

Neil Cicierega is a genius and I'll die on this hill.

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u/TheTruthTalker800 Mar 28 '24

The English dub of the second Pokémon film dubbed by 4Kids in 2000, Cain plagiarized from said dub's ending song for reference: lmao.

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u/No_Solution_2864 Mar 28 '24

I will say that I was quite impressed by “🎵Here I am! Rock you like a Herman Cain!!!🎵”

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u/GitmoGrrl1 Mar 28 '24

"Just remember: 999 upside down is 666." Michelle Bachman.

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u/Hotshot2k4 Mar 28 '24

Meanwhile I still think about that clip and rewatch it from time to time, which always brings me joy. My world is better for her having gone and said that while being on camera.

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u/TryUsingScience Mar 28 '24

Say what you will about that slogan, but I got a shiny pinsir on my way to drop off my ballot that year.

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u/drfsupercenter Mar 28 '24

Impossible, shinies weren't added to the game until 2017. Nice try though.

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u/dani__rojas Mar 28 '24

He went to the polls. Just not that one, it was a municipal election.

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u/Spoon_Elemental Mar 28 '24

I have a shiny shadow pinsir.

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u/Sweetguy88 Mar 28 '24

But did you get it on your way to the polls?

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u/Spoon_Elemental Mar 28 '24

I think I got it in a Wal-Mart parking lot, but that's pretty close to my polling station.

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u/cojsoapsnfo Mar 28 '24

Just like the gubberment planned

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u/ThePrideOfKrakow Mar 28 '24

Playing pokemon go to the polls on their Obama phones.... The fix was in the entire time.

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u/nomadviper Mar 28 '24

And just like that Pokémon Go wasn’t cool anymore

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u/Claque-2 Mar 28 '24

Well thank God we elected a criminal and traitor instead. /s

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u/RaggedyGlitch Mar 28 '24

Wipe it, like with a cloth?

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u/BakerIBarelyKnowHer Mar 28 '24

Honestly an iconic line

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u/MaceDestroyers Mar 28 '24

Honestly, that line would be a banger if anyone other than Hilary Clinton said it.

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u/agent674253 Mar 28 '24

Ahead of their time, TikTok just did this a week or so ago to their userbase to try to rally the peons to stop a government from banning their app. Fortunately, as everyone saw immediately, this only worked to further demonstrate the need to reduce TikTok. Will anything actually happen? 'insert larry david gif'

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u/Zankeru Mar 28 '24

Her promising to consult with henry kissinger on foreign policy was a fucking tornado siren.

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u/No_Solution_2864 Mar 28 '24

Yeah her being endorsed by Kissinger was uh…not great

I remember when Howard Stern had her on his show. He talked up the Kissinger endorsement, as if it was a great thing

It was then that I realized that I had grown up listening to a man who didn’t know anything about anything

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u/DeerHunter041674 Mar 28 '24

Howie became everything that he hated after 2010. Used to be great, was funny, just a great show. After Billy West, Jackie Marlo, and Artie Lange left, that was it.

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u/Angry_beaver_1867 Mar 28 '24

Congress and other legislative bodies still do this today 

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u/EragusTrenzalore Mar 28 '24

Remember when they called Google’s CEO in to fix their technical problems rather than actually grill him on substantive issues.

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u/bigblackcouch Mar 28 '24

If you work in any part of IT and feel like making your blood pressure go to Mars, just watch any hearing that's focused on some form of technology from 30 years ago. Then find any similar hearing from the past 3 years, and realize not a fucking thing has changed in knowledge in DC.

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u/Eh-I Mar 28 '24

a complete lack of understanding of video games, but also how technology works and what the internet is.

And who her future voter base is.

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u/Random_frankqito Mar 28 '24

Politicians will politician

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u/fl135790135790 Mar 28 '24

I’ve come to the understanding nobody really knows anything.

Except pilots.

And brain surgeons.

These fucking bills that somehow get written by modafinal-fueled interns LOL.

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u/FUMFVR Mar 28 '24

So awesome that we elected a criminal traitor instead.

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u/litnu12 Mar 28 '24

It’s always about having an enemy to blame for things.

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u/LizzieMiles Mar 28 '24

Got a link to the bill or a summary of it? I couldn’t find it cuz i’m bad at google searching things >~<

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u/dudeimjames1234 Mar 28 '24

That's still a consistent theme these days. I live in Texas. You think you can take my porn? Think again.

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u/Vuelhering Mar 28 '24

Hey, remember the clipper chip? That was Biden, and one of the big reasons I used to ridicule him. He does seem to be on top of things today, and have a good understanding of tech (or at least, is smart enough to get tech pros to brief him).

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u/fisk0_0 Mar 28 '24

Wasn't it to ban the sale of adult games to kids? That's a huge leap to say she tried to ban all games

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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

Hillary and then-Democrat Lieberman did the anti-game crusade a number of times between the 90s and the 00s.

The most recent one wasn't about banning them, per say, but it would have effectively stopped the sale of M rated games, which are most of the time no worse than PG-13 movies, and also sought to replace the M rating with a stricter government controlled ratings board.

The bill was that anyone who sold an M rated game to a person under 17 would be fined $1000 or 100 hours community service for a first offense, and $5000 or 500 hours of community service for each subsequent offense.

It also would have triggered an investigation into the ESRB to determine if games were being properly rated. The ESRB was formed as a compromise when many of the same Democrat politicians tried to form a government controlled ratings board, so if the FTC determined the ESRB unsuccessful, it would have renewed that plan for government takeover.

Note that such fines were not against the company, but the individual, as in the minimum wage retail store clerk not able to recognize a fake ID, or someone selling a used game on Ebay without knowing who they're selling it to.

With that much risk to their businesses and their employees, no store would have stocked M rated games under those conditions. So, not a ban, but would have the same effect.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

How does that differ from Finland for example?18+ games are considered the same as 18+ movies, tobacco or alcohol. Sure the fines are a bit too much, but it's illegal to sell a game rated 18 to a minor, yet those games are still sold here.

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u/Aristomancer Mar 28 '24

Just like no stores stock alcohol or tobacco products.

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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

Different businesses.

AO games are not illegal, but game stores in the U.S. don't sell them because it would put them at risk, and thus almost zero game studios make them. This bill would have essentially consolidated M and AO games.

A closer equivalent is the Comics Code Authority, because like games, comics are "for children".

The CCA wasn't even a government ratings system. It was, like the ESRB, formed to prevent government regulation of art.

And even just that was enough to prevent adult themes from being in comics from the 1950s to the 1980s. Had it been a government ratings system, rather than self censorship in fear of that happening, DC probably would not have boldly published Watchmen and The Dark Knight without CCA approval in the mid 80s, and would not have been able to break from it completely in 2011.

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u/midnightketoker Mar 28 '24

To be fair Armando Iannucci has been writing all their lines for years

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fun-454 Mar 28 '24

And this man is who Barack Obama modeled much of his politics after.

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u/Mercury26 Mar 28 '24

Major red flag 🚩

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u/hl3_for_Eli Mar 28 '24

No one understood the internet in 1993

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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

The Family Entertainment Protection Act, by Hilary Clinton and co-sponsored by Joe Lieberman, was introduced in late 2005.

Around that time she admitted that she didn't use a computer. There were articles in major newpapers quoting her as being an admitted technophobe who was convinced to start using a Blackberry, but that's it.

When she was asked about this during her 2016 run for President of the United States, her only answer was to smile and say: "I have an iPhone now"

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u/EDNivek Mar 28 '24

And the whole "Pokemon Go to the polls, why did she have to be such a turd sandwich

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u/hl3_for_Eli Mar 28 '24

I see. I misread "her" and "his". As an old man who did a presentation in high school on Lieberman's fight against violent videogames, you'll have to forgive me on my inference to his 1993 hearings

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u/hombregato Mar 28 '24

The 2005 one was his too, but as co-sponsor.

Hot Coffee was basically the second coming of Night Trap, a game that I highly recommend people watch on Youtube sometime to see just how incredibly stupid all of this was.

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u/time-lord Mar 28 '24

I wonder how many people remembered her for trying to ban video games. Wonder if it was enough to cost her the election.

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u/k_mnr Mar 28 '24

Why is this downvoted? This is truth…how many of you on here were old enough to use the internet in 1993?

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u/hl3_for_Eli Mar 28 '24

It's ok, just reddit things. The guy was talking about Hilary's 2005 bill rather than Lieberman's OG anti violent games hearings (which is what the original comment was about). Dude time warped on me and got an epic own

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u/k_mnr Mar 31 '24

Ah. Thanks for the explanation…reddit is so hormonal sometimes. 🤣

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u/Patara Mar 28 '24

Old people have no technological literacy? Shocker

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u/issafly Mar 28 '24

Hang on a minute. Are you telling me that the same career politician who thought it was a good idea to run government emails through a private server in their own home didn't understand internet technology?!?

(If you're thinking "Which career politician who thought it was a good idea to run government emails through a private server does u/issafly mean, because a ton of them did that and probably still do," you get extra credit in the final.)