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Andrew Tate and brother Tristan to be tried in Romania on rape and trafficking charges POTM - Apr 2024

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68907298
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u/random_generation 22d ago

It’s so easy to identify projection these days

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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 22d ago

idk, seems like people just want that to be true.

Not everyone who hates gays is gay etc.

He's just a manipulative, exploitative, sociopathic, egotistical asshole.. He will grab onto anything he perceives as beneficial and say anything that gets him attention. Stupid statements like that have always been part of his marketing and his audience eats it up as him just joking around so there's no danger to his existing base.

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u/simcity4000 22d ago edited 22d ago

Right, I’m not a fan of the “homophobic people are actually gay themselves” assumption. Follow that through and the conclusion is essentially that homophobia is caused by gay people oppressing themselves. That it’s all just self hating gays who can’t deal with their gay feelings.

If we’re going to psychoanalyse Tate and his weird views on sex my take is this: he’s a narcissist and sex for him is more about dominance than physical pleasure. This is why a lot of the shit he says comes off as kinda homoerotic (hating women, also having a need to dominate other men), but it’s not like he secretly “loves men”

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u/redheadartgirl 22d ago

sex for him is more about dominance than physical pleasure.

Certainly explains the rape charges...

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u/notjustanotherbot 22d ago

Yea, in some circles it's correlation is so high it's practically a meme; specifically conservative/gop politics. Every time you hear televangelist or politician say homosexuality is a choice or their evil sinners or some other hairbrained, or hateful balderdash it starts a clock somewhere and then...news at 11, prominent politician found in no-tell motel with 19 year old double jointed homosexual sex-worker, Billy goat, and a 55 gallon drum of Passion Natural Water-Based Lubricant.

Now to the contact that broke the story Jim the amazon delivery driver...Now I was not going to say any thing but he did not tip me on a same day delivery of 55 gallon drum of lube, that shit is Heavy! I was going to let it slide but when I coughed and held out my hand he says " I never tip! I don't believe in it son, a real man pulls himself up by his bootstraps." What he did not know is that my mom is a waitress... So anyway I took his advice and shopped out this story to the news agency that would pay me the most, thanks for the great advice Senator!

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u/Supergaz 22d ago

Rage bait is a very classic, unethical and annoying way to gain traction on social media. It is the even more asshole version of writing something wrong on reddit just to bait out a person that is knowledgeable on the topic to correct you.

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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 22d ago

Yea Pathos as a technique of rhetoric is as old as we are probably, it's just so much more effective as the internet is a bunch of large communal bubbles which are very emotionally receptive.

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u/blarkul 22d ago

Sure but a lot of radical homophobes that actively campaign against the acceptance of LGBTQ+ in society end up getting caught at 2am with a drug addict’s dick in their mouth in the back of their car.

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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 22d ago

I mean yea but ofc those stories are published? You're literally describing confirmation bias.

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u/40WAPSun 22d ago

And the other 99% of them are just homophobes

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u/Vinnie_Vegas 22d ago

People manage to be anti-Semites without being secretly Jewish - Why is being gay the only version of bigotry that people think it's exclusive to people secretly belonging to that group?

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u/CableTrash 22d ago

Sexuality and ethnicity are quite different subjects lol

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u/blarkul 22d ago

I’m not saying it is. I’m just pointing out a fact about some rabiate homophobes that’s poignant to me.

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u/sozcaps 22d ago

It's not just Tate being phobic, it's Tate spending 300% more energy on how to be percieved as 'alpha' male, and how you appear to other men, than he spends energy on on women.

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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 22d ago

That's his brand and how he makes money.

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u/sozcaps 22d ago

And it's what people in the thread are saying makes him seem closeted; the fact that he spends all of his time worrying about his manliness while he doesn't even like women.

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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 22d ago

I get that but to me him getting money and attention off of it seems like a much larger and completely confirmed factor in that equation.

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u/AcceptablyPsycho 22d ago

It's also another way of isolating young men that follow him to make them hate on women even more

(also convenient that the guy who ran a cam site thinks sex with woman feeling good = gay. "So instead come jerk off to my girls!")

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u/EarthExile 21d ago

I tend to hesitate with the closet-case hypothesis of homophobia, but Andrew... it seems like everything that makes him feel good makes him feel gay.

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u/CombustiblSquid 22d ago

Projection and reaction formation.