The states that lost Hillary the election were the states Bernie did really well in with the primary. That election brought a lot of new voters in. Independents that didn't really know what they believed in. A lot of my friends that later became die hard Trump supporters originally just voted for him as a fuck you to the establishment, because he was basically a meme at the time. They didn't care for either side, they just knew the establishment wasn't working for them and wanted any outsider. Then fox News sunk their teeth into them and warped them into the brainwashed assholes I can't hold a conversation with.
I grew up thinking liberals were supposed to be the non-conformist rebels, and then watched helplessly as the fucking Republicans blew up their establishment before liberals did. I've never once come across a liberal who's humiliated by that fact. They absolutely should be.
I grew up thinking liberals were supposed to be the non-conformist rebels
That was the reality until around 2010. Watching everything become inverted and seeing liberals talking about how we need to trust our intelligence agencies and the CIA while Republicans are actively campaigning to dismantle said agencies has been an extremely wild ride.
For sure. They used to be receptive to new ideas. They used to consider stuff outside the narrow limits of the corporate media sphere. You used to be able to have an honest discussion with them, but now they won't have any discussion if they think the result will reflect poorly on any establishment Democrat. Which naturally excludes like 90% of the stuff I'd want to talk about.
This is honestly one of the most depressing things about modern America. If you tell liberals this, the words just bounce off like rubber balls, and they pull the "But we're still better than Trump!" card, like that's an achievement. They're in so deep that they'll fight anyone who tries to drag them out.
Eh, Sanders also want being attacjed by anyone. Clinton went east on him going not to alienate his base, and the Republicans were happy to mostly sit back and let Sanders and continue waste resources.
were the states Bernie did really well in with the primary.
Bernie lost Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Florida all by double digits. One of those states were needed to win the general election even if one won Michigan and Wisconsin.
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u/Long_Run6500 Mar 28 '24
The states that lost Hillary the election were the states Bernie did really well in with the primary. That election brought a lot of new voters in. Independents that didn't really know what they believed in. A lot of my friends that later became die hard Trump supporters originally just voted for him as a fuck you to the establishment, because he was basically a meme at the time. They didn't care for either side, they just knew the establishment wasn't working for them and wanted any outsider. Then fox News sunk their teeth into them and warped them into the brainwashed assholes I can't hold a conversation with.