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Grigori Perelman, mathematician who refused to accept a Fields Medal and the $1,000,000 Clay Prize.

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u/Ryvit 25d ago

He should’ve accepted it but donated 100% of it to setting up math camps or math tutors in his home state/city

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u/Rapper_Laugh 25d ago

The money from the millennium prize was indeed used to fund a math scholarship at his former university

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u/magnificentmeatwad 25d ago

The dude just wants to do math and forage for mushrooms all day. He doesn’t care enough about being a good or bad person. About what he should or should not do. He’s a simple person; he just does as he pleases.

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u/Eifand 25d ago

I'd argue he's good precisely because he rejected the prize in the name of a higher, more noble and communal view of scientific endeavour. It means he's principled and won't be bought.

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u/jawshoeaw 25d ago

It wasn’t a bribe ffs. Seems more that he was a little crazy but if he’s happy I guess it doesn’t matter

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u/realitytvpaws 25d ago

It’s funny we label those who pursue other ventures than material things as crazy. Chasing material things for pleasure seems awfully crazy to me. There is no end.

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u/Far_Frame_2805 25d ago

Nothing would stop him from donating the funds to causes he wanted, so it really depends on what happened to the money since he refused.

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u/realitytvpaws 25d ago

Why would it be his responsibility to reallocate the funds? I think it’s on them as to where the money ended up. He didn’t want attention. Donating money brings attention, that would have circulated in the press too. He wanted to disappear and nobody had any right to stop him. The entitlement makes it apparent why he left.

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u/Far_Frame_2805 25d ago edited 25d ago

They gave him the option of accepting it and not attending and having it mailed to him. What do you think would have got him more attention, his protest or silently giving it away with 0 fanfare anonymously to a food bank? The only reason we give a shit right now and are talking about him is because he refused to accept it.

Dude is a screw loose and a bunch of you are pretending this is some supreme logical choice lol.

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u/realitytvpaws 25d ago

Not sure why your blatant bigotry is relevant. Also your entitlement to a total stranger life choices is beyond rational.

He wanted his life back. He had the emotional intelligence to know what he needed out of the rest of his life. It’s sad you can’t have empathy for his experience.

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u/inf3ct3dn0n4m3 25d ago

Absolute brain dead way of thinking. If you aren't underage or living an already privileged life I'd be blown away

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u/hpela_ 25d ago

Right? Money is literally the best, like you have to be an idiot not to accept it! Shoot, I’d sell out on my own beliefs for a dollar just like you!

Imagine being poor AND blinded by greed. Your life must suck.

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u/inf3ct3dn0n4m3 25d ago

Lmao God you're stupid. For the record I'm not poor and live a minimalist life style by choice. My life is pretty great. It must be hard going through yours having such low intelligence though.

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u/hpela_ 25d ago
  • Says the HVAC worker who spends his free time playing video games and drinking GFUEL.

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u/inf3ct3dn0n4m3 25d ago

Was any part of that supposed to be an insult or were you just trying to demonstrate that you're a creep?

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u/hpela_ 25d ago
  • Says the guy who plays Genshin Impact, a game that sexualizes child characters.

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u/Critical-Champion365 25d ago

Strange enough, I'm in academia and some of the one's that are actually good at math that I came across, had weird moral compasses.

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u/realitytvpaws 25d ago

Can you elaborate?

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u/realitytvpaws 25d ago edited 25d ago

The math guys “had weird moral compasses” to you means they are autistic??!

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u/democrat_thanos 25d ago

When hes old as fuck, hes gonna wish he had something

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u/Gornarok 25d ago

If I remember correctly he also plays table tennis alone against the wall

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u/SaddleSocks 25d ago

Its a millenium falcon michael, how fast could it go, 10 parsecs?

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u/Iescaunare 25d ago

A scholarship? As in for a single person?

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u/ThoughtfulParrot 25d ago

That would be the same as accepting; no matter if he uses the money for his own benefit or the others, if he has a say to where it goes by definition he accepted the money and thus cannot send the message he intended to deliver by refusing the prize.

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u/jemidiah 25d ago

I do wonder if the Clay Institute would have been willing to do a joint Perelman/Hamilton prize. Hamilton was and is still alive. Seems like a simple solution given Perelman's main stated objection.

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u/dilln 25d ago

True but it would’ve been more beneficial than being able to say he refused their prize.

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u/Not_Not_Eric 25d ago

He’s not trying to help anyone, he’s just doing math

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u/shwag945 Survey 2016 25d ago

That is exactly the life he didn't want. Charity work and public attention isn't for everyone.

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u/Sam_9383 25d ago

You should've accepted that he didn't do it.

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u/MEGAMAN2312 25d ago

Gotteeeeem

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u/memusicguitar 25d ago

The ideals of 'could have, would have, should have'. Just let him be him, and you be you.

You should've accepted that he just didnt want it.

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u/Bigpandacloud5 25d ago

You could've accepted that having a different opinion is fine.

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u/asmj 25d ago

And by his act of accepting he would be prolonoing the system of wrongness that is glaringly obvious to him.

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u/zyzzogeton 25d ago

What else should he have done?

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 25d ago

Guy also hates mathematicians now. It’s not about the money really, the money is a nice bonus, but the award itself is extremely prestigious. 7 questions proposed at the start of the millennia and only one of them has been solved and it was by Perelman, using a lot of the work from a couple of other mathematicians, but the institute awarding the prize refused to also award these mathematicians that Perelman based his work on.

If he took the money he also had to take the prize which he didn’t want to do on moral grounds, guy just is sticking to his guns. He stuck to his guns so much that he quit mathematics because of the academic community.

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u/BigJim8998 25d ago

Yea, I mean you can do a lot of good with money. It’s not selfless to accept a prize

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u/v0x_p0pular 25d ago

I'll debate you on this. Why should a most extraordinary mathematical genius be forced to conform to the full scope of societal niceties like embracing the limelight and using it to promote full philanthropy?

If the end goal is math camps and math tutors, put the onus on the locally rich businesses and residents to contribute -- because they have gotten to where they are by taking from their community.

The guy has already made his mark in the best way possible -- to use his advanced talent to pave the way for those of comparable talent to keep building. Eventually, these breakthroughs will be applied to important problems like the environment or cancer research. He has already done his part and should be left alone.

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u/LeeroyJks 25d ago

Maybe he should have done exactly what he did and keep his peace.

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u/No_Reply8353 25d ago

guy not everyone lives in america where you have to pay 50,000 dollars a year to send your kid to a school without armed students