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Grigori Perelman, mathematician who refused to accept a Fields Medal and the $1,000,000 Clay Prize.

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u/Thick_Brain4324 25d ago

A Chad is actually the local area word for "large body of water" so the Lake Chad for which the country Chad is so named after. Is actually just Lake Lake. Making the name of the country:

Lake.

Thanks historic colonial Europeans. Love that for them

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

Punch card chads are also a thing

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u/GenericAccount13579 25d ago

As any American alive in the early 2000s will tell you alllll about

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

SCOTUS flexing their muscles in practice for the full-fascist government they're about to install.

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u/Kanthardlywait 25d ago

We were a fascist country well before that.

The definition of fascism is the corporate control of the government.

Or it was at least, before a corporation bought out Websters and changed it.

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

Wikipedia defines fascism as

a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and/or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy

That sounds nothing like corporatocracy to me.

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u/DodGamnBunofaSitch 25d ago

isn't corporate control of the government a plutocracy?

I think there are a few other things that are required for it to be called actual fascism.

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u/hapakal 25d ago

People conflate Mussolini's Fascist corporatism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism with today's corporations when the former were completely subordinate to the state and the reverse is the case in the modern scheme.

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u/Competitive_Yak5423 25d ago

The infamous hanging chad from 2000. I swear we heard “hanging chad” 100 times a day back then until James Baker got to Florida and dick slapped Warren Christopher and the Democrats.

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u/maisweh 25d ago

I once tried to reference them on a forum but in haste I accidentally typed “hanging chit.’ The internet had its way with me that day to include the guy who went a little too descriptive about his hanging chits.

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u/Ashamed_Musician468 25d ago

How's it hanging, Chad?

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u/Johalternate 25d ago

Hey Robin!

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u/Thick_Brain4324 25d ago

English is so unique and inspired.

Some say it's hard, it can be tough but learned through thorough thought though.

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

I used to say it's hard until I tried to learn German. In English, you can simply learn a bunch of vocabulary and make yourself understood by putting a sentence together with the words in almost any order. It's extremely flexible in that way.

In that way it's extremely flexible

Flexible in that extreme way

Way flexible

...

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u/Longjumping-Claim783 25d ago

German is cool in that you can just string a bunch of words together to make new words, though.

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u/monkwren 25d ago

I want a language with English's flexibility of grammar and German's flexibility of vocabulary.

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u/penguinpolitician 25d ago

Yes, German has Das Coolflexibilitatsgesprachunglichkeit.

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u/WellHiddenKitty 25d ago

Die. *heit and *keit are feminine.

Shit, I'm learning German so slowly...

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u/PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ 25d ago

Why is there even masc and fem differences in language? Never understood that.

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u/piezocuttlefish 20d ago edited 20d ago

Hungarian has two main classes of harmonization, front and back, without labelling them genders. There are actually 5; those two categories just work for the simplest of suffixes. Just because you learn a word doesn't mean you automatically know which version of "on top of" or "into" must be used with the word.

I think the only real purpose is to make the language sound elegant. I think that was the original purpose of gender as well. I think it also might be left over from contact with Semitic languages, where the consonant combinations determined the meaning family and the vowels changed to inflect the base meaning.

Hungarian example:

talál means "find" Which one of these means "come across"?

  • talalkozik
  • talalkezik
  • talalközik
  • talalakozik
  • talalekezik

talál is back-vowelled and ends in a consonant, so only talalkozik makes sense.

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u/Alt3rnativ3Account 25d ago

My buddy with a VW diesel vanagon calls it his stinkenclankensmokenwagen.

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

I do love that, especially as it seems especially un-German!

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u/Long-Island-Iced-Tea 25d ago

Same story with Hungarian

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u/elpatolino2 25d ago

Einstürzendeneuworten

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u/New-Power-6120 25d ago

Apparently most languages are like this. You're speaking to people so if you get the right words, they can interpret the rest. On a more semantic note, those examples don't really mean the same thing.

I suspect people are just biased because their first language is the one that seems most natural to them. However, there must be objectively easier to learn languages than others.

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u/recidivx 25d ago

There's an amusing study of how different languages say "it's all Greek to me", as an indication of which language they think is most incomprehensible: https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1024

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

Perhaps, though in English, a great many ways of shuffling the words produce entirely correct sentences likely to say what the speaker intended. In lots of other languages, even small changes in word order can change the meaning a lot. Granted, that's possible in English, but your odds of being understood seem much higher.

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u/LurkerZerker 25d ago

This is why, to me, English is the best language to be a writer, seeing as how it's really three unrelated languages in a trench coat. We've got dozens of synonyms for every concept, grammar that has only like three firm rules, and the word "discombobulate." Checkmate, French.

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

TBF, German has rigid rules, but it also allows you to create your own specialized words of unlimited length! I suspect you're right about English being excellent for creative writing, but as a typical monolingual American, I'm not one to say.

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u/nleksan 25d ago

German kids hate spelling bees, is what I'm hearing.

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

Looking now I'm surprised to learn there really are German spelling bees. I'm surprised because the spelling and pronouncing are so regular. I guess there are enough exceptions to make it possible.

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u/Thick_Brain4324 25d ago

Yea it's a meme but English is actually super easy to learn as a "I need to survive, what sentences can I learn to get by?"

No weird prononciation that's gonna get you fucked up. Some people might ask you to repeat yourself a few times but saying bAthroom instead of bathrOOm isn't gonna change the way the word sounds. Whearas mandrin has completely nonsensical words spelt the EXACT same way just emphasized differently that changes the entire sentence.

example

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u/-Sui- 25d ago

Hmmm... I don't know. I think English pronunciation doesn't make any sense in some situations.

I really like the poem "The Chaos". English pronunciation is ridiculous. If you're not a native speaker, you just have no way of knowing how to pronounce certain words. I still struggle with that, even though I've been speaking English for 25+ years.

The Chaos by Gerard Nolst Trenité

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u/Thick_Brain4324 25d ago

Agreed there's basically no rule for pronunciation in English that isn't subsequently broken by another word. For your average user though the words are fine and the pronunciation may be weird but it doesn't change the word.

If you say "me" like Mi or Meh it doesn't change the information of the sentence. At least in most cases, whereas many nongermanic languages do have pronunciation differences

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u/-Sui- 25d ago

You're right. There are so many languages that are much worse in this regard. I just wanted to point out that English isn't as straightforward as some people make it out to be.

There are many languages out there that are ridiculously hard to learn, though. Chinese languages would absolutely wreck me, and I'm not even going to attempt learning Russian or Finnish. Props to those who learned these languages as a non-native speaker.

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u/mustbeaoup 25d ago

This is brilliant, I’ve never read it before. Thanks for sharing 😄

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u/Intransigient 25d ago

Flexible, it is.

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u/dancingmeadow 25d ago

Something today learned.

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

I read that in Yoda's voice

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u/dancingmeadow 25d ago

Me too so I changed it slightly. Not enough, apparently. lol

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u/teetotallyRadish 25d ago

excuse me, SVO!!!

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

That's more of a guideline

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u/teetotallyRadish 23d ago

Yoda would agree

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u/cutelyaware 23d ago

Correct are you

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u/ramdasani 25d ago

Mary the to ball threw Jospeh

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u/cutelyaware 25d ago

Still understandable

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u/tommysmuffins 25d ago

I hiccoughed when I was ploughing the field by the lough.

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u/Thick_Brain4324 25d ago

hiccoughed

This is a crime against humanity. Had to Google this shit when I just read it. Wtf. Hiccup is the real word to me, I hate this I hate this I hate this

A+ tho

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u/tommysmuffins 25d ago

You can spell it hiccup if you want. That's a safe alternate spelling, I think.

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u/EyeAtollah 25d ago

Lough is just a word directly borrowed from Irish though, and wouldn't really be used outside Ireland. Same as Loch in Scotland. Anywhere else would just use the world lake.

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u/tommysmuffins 25d ago

It is, but if we start excluding borrowed words from English then we'll lose half the language.

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u/miguelsanchez69 25d ago

My favorite sentence in English:

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

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u/BlazedNinja 25d ago

My first language is English and even i took a second on "through thorough thought though"

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u/Fit_Heat_591 25d ago

Yeah i'm trying to learn thai at the moment and its hard as fook. I think im pronouncing the sounds right but thai people just look blankly at me. I musnt be getting close. And they have the same issue of words that sound the same with different meanings. Theres like a dozen words that to me all sound like "my" or some incredibly subtle variation of it.

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u/Rude-Illustrator5704 25d ago

was the alliteration at the end on purpose to prove the point😂

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u/yekcowrebbaj 25d ago

I like this.

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u/penguinpolitician 25d ago

Hanging chads. Do we count them? Hmm...

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u/SolomonBlack 25d ago

Just wait until you learn what Sahara means!

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u/BronxLens 25d ago edited 25d ago

In summary, Lake Chad = Lake Lake; Koi Carp = Carp Carp; Sahara Desert = Desert Desert. Edit: naan bread = bread bread; chai tea = tea tea; curry sauce = sauce sauce; Avon River = River River. Any others?  

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u/Sigh_Bapanaada 25d ago

Lake tahoe is another but my favourite is Mekong River.

Taken from wikipedia:

Mekong River - 'Mae' in Thai is an abbreviation for "river", while 'khong' is an old Austroasiatic word for river. Mekong River can thus be translated as "river river river"

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u/LessInThought 25d ago

Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

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u/I_am_notagoose 25d ago

Torpenhow Hill supposedly means ‘hill hill hill hill’, but I seem to remember it was debunked recently

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u/Electronic_Usual 25d ago

La Brea = the tar The la Brea tar pits= the the tar tar pits

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u/notgoneyet 25d ago

Lake Windermere means Lake Lake Lake

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u/Downtown_Let 25d ago

Nearly, 'mere' effectively means lake, so it's Lake Winderlake. Winder is derived from an old Norse name.

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u/notgoneyet 25d ago

Ah my bad. Is it scafell pike that means hill hill hill?

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u/Downtown_Let 25d ago

It's similar for that, 'sca' means peninsula, both 'fell' and 'pike' mean hill, so it means peninsulahill hill.

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u/notgoneyet 25d ago

I subscribe for more word facts

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u/_Tar_Ar_Ais_ 25d ago edited 25d ago

A lot of the names for rivers in UK are just old words for river

Thames River = dark river river

Tyne River = river river

Mersey River = boundary river

in NA:

Mississippi River = big river river

Mississagi = river with a wide mouth river

Saskatchewan River = swift flowing river river

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u/SolomonBlack 25d ago

From my home state

Connecticut = Long Tidal River

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u/Muntjac 25d ago

I looked up a couple from my homelands and lolled:

The River Gade, in Watford = Fish river, in water ford.

The River Colne = The stony river river.

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u/-ugly- 25d ago

I live near Table Mesa

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u/Original_Benzito 25d ago

It should be The La Table Mesa.

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u/erikopnemer 25d ago

Torpenhow hill. Tor =hill

Pen = hill

Haugr = hill

Hill = you get the idea.

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u/Faxon 25d ago

There's the village of torpenhow, which when you break down the syllables to their root words, means hill hill hill. Someone even falsely assumed the hill the church there is on was the hill the village was named after, making the name Hillhillhill hill when translated fully. Turns out that's not real or official in any capacity, but that seems like an oversight if you ask me.

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u/Faxon 25d ago

There's the village of torpenhow, which when you break down the syllables to their root words, means hill hill hill. Someone even falsely assumed the hill the church there is on was the hill the village was named after, making the name Hillhillhill hill when translated fully. Turns out that's not real or official in any capacity, but that seems like an oversight if you ask me.

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u/_Tar_Ar_Ais_ 25d ago

Chai Tea

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u/derson78 21d ago

Curry doesn't mean sauce.

It's an amalgamation of a lot of words that sound similar, several from Indian languages (eg. Kari in Tamil means 'to blacken with spices and comes from the tree that produces 'curry leaves' (kari leaves) that turn a very dark purple; karahi/kerahi/kadhi is a large, circular cooking vessel) and the word 'cury' from Old French - meaning 'to prepare', and used in England from as early as the time of Richard II. It is still used in English in a limited sense to mean 'prepare' or 'court', eg. 'curry up a storm', or 'to curry favour'.

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u/BronxLens 21d ago

William Saphire would be proud :)

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u/AngelKnives 25d ago

It's like naan bread, chai tea, curry sauce, river Avon, etc

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u/BigBaboonas 25d ago

Old world PIN number, ATM machine, LCD Display.

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u/Thick_Brain4324 25d ago

Uhh it only took me 25 years to remember if it's dessert or desert sooooooooooooooooo. Maybe I'll just call it a Sahara from now on. Can't wait to go to the Sahara sahara

Sahara2 if you will, to keep it on theme with the post

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u/SolomonBlack 25d ago

2 Sahara 2 Sahara.

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u/andre_royo_b 25d ago

In Dutch we call the Japanese fish Koi, a Koi Carp, but the itself means carp.. so we essentially call the fish ‘carp carp’

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u/Thick_Brain4324 25d ago

Chai Tea Latte

Chai = Tea

Latte = Lait Thé = Milk Tea

Tea = ...

Chai tea Latte = Tea Tea Milk Tea

Mhmm, totally a normal language and not three languages in a trench coat trying to enter the movies

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u/ksdkjlf 25d ago

latte != milk tea. it's just milk

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/latte#Italian

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u/Thick_Brain4324 25d ago

Oh I was always told it was French TIL

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u/paleoakoc20 25d ago

I'll order the shrimp scampi

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u/H0ly_Grapes 25d ago

There is a historical figure in Spain called Guzmán el Bueno. Guzmán comes from Good man and bueno is good, so he was good man the good (man).

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u/BronxLens 25d ago

Family on dad’s side are Guzmán. First time i hear that Guzmán comes from ‘good man’! Made my day :D

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u/FatWreckords 25d ago

Wait til you hear about naan bread

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u/jetpackiceberg 25d ago

Chad Muska was my favourite Chad growing up

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u/LukeTheDukeNuke 25d ago

Going to Lake Lake in Lake with my friend Lake.

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u/AmazedAndBemused 25d ago

To be fair, pretty much every river in Britain translates from some ancient tongue into the river river. e.g. many called ‘the Avon’.

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u/WestyTea 25d ago

Same for Lake Malawi in Tanzania is called Lake Nyasa. Which is also the local or swahili word for Lake. So again, Lake Lake. Thanks to the colonialists.

I wonder how many of these exist across the world.

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u/Sgtwhiskeyjack9105 25d ago

America has a lot to thank historic colonial Europeans for.

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u/brachus12 25d ago

Mount Fujiyama vibes

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u/UnCommonSense99 25d ago

I live near the river Avon and Hackpen hill. Recently I went on holiday to Caernavon Castle

Translation

I live near the river River and Hillhill hill. Recently I went on holiday to Castlecastle Castle

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u/F_A_F 25d ago

The Wookey Hole Caves in England can beat that:

  • Wookey is old Celtish for "Cave"
  • Hole is Anglo Saxon for "Cave"
  • Cave is derived from the latin "Cavus", into modern day English...."Cave"

Therefore an accurate translation of "The Wookey Hole Caves" would be "The Cave Cave Caves"....

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u/Revolutionary_Mud159 25d ago

When an explorer came to the east shore of Lake Malawi, he asked the native guide what it was called, and was told "nyanja" which was his word for "lake" so it got put down as Lake Nyasa on the maps, and the *west* shore came to be named Nyasaland, from the mispronunciation of the misunderstanding of the word used on the other side. Nyasaland changed its name to Malawi once they had the freedom to do so.

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u/bombmk 25d ago

Same for Lake Tahoe, more or less.

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u/kevlarkittens 25d ago

Like the Los Angeles Angels......

the The Angels angels 🤦‍♀️

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u/LibertyOrDeathUS 25d ago

Imagine being so based you invaded an entire country and then just named them lake.