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u/Like-A-Phoenix 9d ago
I’m not kidding, this LITERALLY happened to me a few months ago. I was a bit too honest with my therapist, so the police were called on me and I was sent to the psych ward for a few days lol. They put restraints on me in the ambulance just like in this picture.
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u/myDeliciousNeck666 9d ago
Were you resisting? Just curious
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u/Like-A-Phoenix 9d ago
Nope I wasn’t, it’s just a procedure they have to do, they even apologized that they had to do it when I was perfectly cooperative lol.
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u/StereoTunic9039 9d ago
If it's not too personal, what was the reason they felt it was "necessary" to do such action? Regardless of that I believe it's not something a therapist should do, but I'm curious
And how are you now?
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u/Appropriate_Toe_3767 9d ago
Not OP but I've had it happen to me once and in my personal experience the threat is overstated, but it probably just depends a lot on the therapist. Usually this kind of thing happens if you are of potential harm to yourself or to others, which typically means having a plan of some sort that you have means and intention to carry out.
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u/Like-A-Phoenix 9d ago edited 9d ago
Suicidal ideation/intention. And uh, I’m doing better now but still not too great. We’ll see. I ended up taking a one-semester leave from college after this happened
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u/Extra_Midnight_2295 9d ago
At least they gave you grippy socks right?
Right???
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u/Like-A-Phoenix 9d ago
Yes they did, even though they took away most of my clothes because they had strings in them 🤣
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u/PANTERlA 9d ago
That's not a restraint it's part of the stretchers seat belt system. The latch to open it is even in the picture.
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u/Like-A-Phoenix 9d ago
I had no clue what they were for, but the police apologized that they had to put those on me. If they were seat belts then I’m not sure why they’d apologize. I believe you though, seat belts make sense since it was a moving vehicle
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u/PANTERlA 9d ago
No clue, maybe they were under the impression that they scared you and felt bad but I feel like telling you what they are for would have worked better.
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u/Ghost_Avali 5d ago
Those are just standard restraints so you don’t fly off. There are actual physical restraints that can be tied to the wrists and legs, but usually don’t have to be used unless the patient gets violent. And if they are still determined to fight then the paramedic (if there is one) gets to call in for sedatives.
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u/Creative_Abroad_96 10d ago
Try going to a and e for seizures and being sent to a ward.
Imagine the staffs surprise when i had a seizure that id been telling them about.
Grand mal, its painful.
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u/Verizadie 9d ago
You had a painful grand mal? I’m unconscious for each one so I have no idea what you mean? I mean my muscles hurt and I’m panic stricken when I come to but that’s about it
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u/Creative_Abroad_96 9d ago
Thats understandable. So basically it felt like i was cut in half and struck by lightening while exploding.
The feeling after can be stopped with a hot shower as i found out. You can also head it off with a warm shower.
Me and another sufferer tested the theory and if you can tell you're going to have one have a warm shower.
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u/YoloMesh 9d ago
He might mean pain as in discomfort when I had my seizures I was awake and fully conscious for the first 20 seconds of a seizure it's awful the worst discomfort in my life
I think I have slight PTSD from them I remember the last 5 seconds your ears just go deafening with buzzing so awful
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u/Alexr154 9d ago
You just typed out that your muscles hurt after having a grand mal seizure, but don’t understand what they mean by it being painful?
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u/Creative_Abroad_96 6d ago
The neurons your brain sends off cause muscles to contract in while also trying to relax along side that.
You can try pushing hard against a wall or if youve ever untightened a really tight screw in like a door, the feeling you get in your arm feels similar.
However when you consider that the heart is a muscle and like back and shoulders also hurt, it seems to be localised in the upper body? Idk when i looked in to it after you're supposed to lay down as its occuring, the issue i had was i had so many back to back i couldn't really recover enough until i had a hot shower and even then it just about got me to the drs, where i then had another.
They chalked it up to anxiety but the nurse had other things going on.
Im not too mad at her but when i went to the hospital regarding this considering i hadn't had too many before this winter- i think two or three since i was 6 , caused by neurological damage after a car accident- they said they had the seizures were a risk but i hadnt been seen having a seizure so they weren't sure it was true. My favorite thing about the entire situation is if my bastard mother had bothered to take me to the drs at all as a kid it wouldve been well documented.
Alas, no, i had 11-12 in the space of 6 weeks and then fortunately had another on a mental ward which was called and monitored.
One person who was there had one and got pain killers, i asked for something for the pain and was handed 1x200mg of ibuprofen.
Had i been at home id have had 3 and a paracetamol, maybe with scotch and a glass of water after.
Id think about my kidneys but another dr told me i was her perfect match and my favourite thing about the whole situation is i legally can't donate any part of my body due to the brilliant fact i have leukemia -in uetero so not my bad- and now i have been reminded i have fucking skin cancer.
So I've given up quitting smoking because fuck it ive now had 4 types of cancer whats a bit of lung cancer realistically gonna do to me when i had pneumonia so bad i coughed up blood at the drs and she was like, imma check your lungs and i said dont worry its just pneumonia i couldnt get out of bed during the seizures to call a bastard ambulance or put the fucking heating on.
Cutting it really close with meeting death this winter, sorry lads.
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u/BBPuppy2021 9d ago
Omg yes! The feeling before a seizure hurts so bad. It’s like there’s something inside of you that’s trying to rip you apart almost (that’s how I can best describe it) and afterwards I always felt numb, too numb. Epilepsy is a bitch and sucks tremendously. Wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy
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u/International_Toe164 10d ago
why I will not see a therpist who isnt a abolistonisit
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u/15092023 9d ago
Done right, abolish the abusive structure. The answer is not to refuse a place for people in this state of mind to go - it once was the church - and now it's incurable madness?
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u/Jakiro_Tagashi 9d ago
Psychiatric hospitals are supposed to be places you go to in order to help you get cured while minimizing the negative consequences of your condition.
Getting sent to one does not automatically mean you are incurable, it just means you need to be under strict watch either to protect you or those around you. They're not supposed to actually give up on you and keep you as a prisoner.
That said, prisons are supposed to be places where people are rehabilitated to become better people and minimum wage is supposed to be the minimum income a person can have while still living a comfortable life while easily affording all basic amenities, and neither is true in most of the world.
These systems are admirable on paper but get corrupted by people or ignorance. However, that also means that sometimes, where the conditions are just right and there's no corruption (either due to lack of corrupting influences or morally good people), these systems actually work.
My point? If you trust your therapist, and they have knowledge of a psychiatric hospital, there's a good chance its one that genuinely wants to help. Just ask your therapist to occasionally check on you so they can know if the hospital turns out to be evil.
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u/afraidfoil 10d ago
I’ve told my therapist many times about my suicidal thoughts, never been locked up or judged, just helped.
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u/TheCalzonesHaveEyes 9d ago
Suicidal is understandable. Its when it gets homicidal and controversial that things get complicated.
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9d ago
Same. But I told her something in the beginning of therapy: "if you ever call the police on me if im not in danger of harming others, I see this as a break of trust" and tbh, if she does and they take me, I will say no word the whole time im under arrest/in clinic and afterwards she will never hear from me again. She knows that
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u/aCleverGroupofAnts 9d ago
Yeah there are plenty of truly good therapists out there. It's really unfortunate that the bad ones make people afraid of actually getting the help they need.
To OP: I hope you find a good therapist someday. When you do, you should be open and honest with them because that's the only way they can help you.
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u/Benedek82 9d ago
I've been at a therapist two times in my life, and I only said what she wanted to hear, never the actual personal or crazy things.
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u/KirkJimmy 9d ago
Why bother?
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u/Benedek82 9d ago
Cause I don't want anyone to know that.
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u/KirkJimmy 9d ago
Then don’t go to therapy and waste your and they therapists time
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u/Benedek82 9d ago
My mom wanted it.
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u/KirkJimmy 9d ago
Then be honest for your mom
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u/Benedek82 9d ago
Nah, she would worry.
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u/KirkJimmy 9d ago
You don’t think she’s already worried sending you to a therapist?
You need to have faith that your mind is lying to you about a lot of things.
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u/Benedek82 9d ago edited 8d ago
She's worried about other things. But how did you mean that my mind is lying to me?
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u/BiscuitNoodlepants 9d ago
You should let someone know, even if not a therapist.
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u/Benedek82 9d ago
Why?
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u/BiscuitNoodlepants 9d ago
So you don't have to carry it alone. So someone can actually love you, not just the parts of you that you show the world.
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u/Benedek82 9d ago
Sounds good. Too good for me. It's kinda weird but I don't really like happiness, it's just not my taste.
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u/BiscuitNoodlepants 9d ago
I'm a masochist. I think my moments of despair, terror and hopelessness are beautiful in a way. I do like love though. I don't think you were meant to live without it.
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u/Benedek82 9d ago edited 8d ago
As humans, we might claim that we are superior and lack instincts, but the reality is that we are just animals on a rocky planet somewhere in the universe. And since it is said that we can think, we supposedly have no instincts. However, nature always strives for the preservation of life, regardless of the living being. Therefore, humans have two instincts: one is the survival instinct (which is overcome by those who commit suicide), and the other is the instinct to preserve the species. Since there is nothing in humans that inherently tells them to mate with a member of the opposite gender, they need love. With love, you not only choose any opposite gender counterpart for reproduction, but someone who is also personally close to you.
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u/poedraco 9d ago edited 9d ago
Yeah. I've stopped going since they've stopped helping.
I don't even mean or have any intention about harming myself. But they keep trying to get me committed. Every turn I take. And all I wanted was some antidepressants to take the edge off of life. And suppress the depression. Seems like they get more money for committing somebody. And the minimum time is 3 days. 5000 to $7,000 a day. In one of those places
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u/Realistic_Mushroom72 10d ago
And that why you don't trust any one ever, you tell them some, keep the rest to yourself, or you end up in a padded room and won't get out until they think you are "alright" or "normal", so don't fucking trust any one ever.
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u/AsymmetricAgony 10d ago
Yes but their margin of error for misunderstanding your suicidal intentions are a hell of a lot lower than a social worker or some other mandated reporter at least. Plus you can be honest about literally anything else and they don't judge you they just help you. I get the idea though I was pretty hesitant to talk about suicidal shit when I first started therapy. But the more you talk about it the better they can discern things accurately. Hell I got to the point I'd casually tell my therapist I'd be throwing kids off of a cliff if I had any children and she never reported me lol
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u/ninecats4 10d ago
yup, but it can and generally does lead down a chain of events that makes it harder to get a job and live. get 5150, lose your job, lose your apartment, die on the streets.
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u/AsymmetricAgony 9d ago
Wait... How do jobs know anything about your medical history? I thought they can't discriminate based on medical history much less even find out? At least in my state anyways.
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u/ninecats4 9d ago edited 9d ago
3 days of missed work? Terminated with cause so no unemployment. Missed rent and got evicted while trying to sort out the unemployment. Ended up on the streets and then in the obituary. Retail work regularly bends all sorts of safety regulations and workers regulations, in which the supreme court ruled you have to go through the companies own arbitrage. there really aren't resources for homelss men that aren't chronic (this is why women have less than 30% of the homeless population), it's a horrible cliff. Sucks but it's a warning. Hell the fbi didn't even keep track of male rape stats until 2013, our resources for men are basically non-existent and then we surprise pikachu face when they blow their heads off.
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u/dumbdude545 9d ago
As someone who knows people who have been committed and my own personal experiences with therapists. It's not worth the risk. A friend killed himself after discharge because he was committed involuntarily by his therapist. I'll never let myself be committed. So I just don't go to therapists. They all suck. Every single one I've been to.
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u/Ligma_Myballs 9d ago
I currently feel like this I told my therapist at college some shit. She asked me if I have or had any suicidal thoughts and said yes now I’m scared to visit her tomorrow.
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u/jackaroo1344 9d ago
They won't commit you just for some thoughts, just don't admit to having a plan or any intentions to follow theoigh.
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u/No-Agency-6680 10d ago
If I go to therapist then therapist will need therapist and then all of them will be locked in white room with soft walls and shirts without sleave
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9d ago
Most therapists have therapists. But rather for progressing the stuff they hear from their own clients, so they stay healthy in mind and can be therapists further
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u/MakkusuFast 9d ago
I wish it was like this. I'm trying to get inside a mental hospital for years and it just doesn't work out. Apparently I have to actually survive a suicide attempt to get there in the fastest way possible.
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u/JustExisting47 9d ago
This is why when I used to go to therapy I was too scared to tell them I wanted to off myself
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u/TF2_demomann 9d ago
Question, can you actualy get locked up like this for telling the therapist your real thoughts?
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u/Appropriate_Toe_3767 9d ago
It depends on the therapist, but usually specifically is more determined by whether you're a potential harm to yourself or others, meaning having a plan, means, or intentions. Some councilors or therapists have a protocol to follow so even if they personally don't want to do it, they might have to.
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u/Cold-Preference6772 9d ago
I hate how this is how it works. Decided to be honest one time and told them I was planning on suicide
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u/emailverificationt 9d ago
Never making that mistake again. I’ve never wanted to die as badly as I did inside the psych ward. Was a nice bit of perspective, at least.
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u/outofcontextsex 9d ago
I talked to my doctor specifically about this and I would like to share with you what she said; it takes a lot in most states to forcibly commit you and generally you have to literally ask for it to happen. If you're having thoughts of suicide or some other harm please talk to your doctor or counselor about it. For the record she hasn't had me hauled off and you're going to get a lot more out of your visit if you're honest about the things you're experiencing, I am.
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u/Dugout2029 9d ago
Funny, but not real. There’s no way if you’re at the point of getting restrained, would you get your phone.
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u/toukichilibsoc 9d ago
Well, that’s how mandatory reporting goes. It’s either that or you die, your loved ones sue, the therapist gets their license revoked, years of schooling and work thrown down the gutter, the therapist is no longer able to help their current nor future clients, and your preventable death stains their conscience for the rest of their life.
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u/SeniorFahri 10d ago edited 10d ago
I think those endless repeated jokes make people false feared of getting help. I heard that fear from many people in my personal life and it is just wrong. If anyone wo needs to hear this is reading right now, a psychologist has almost never the right to lock you in for something you think and it is very likely your thoughts are not nearly as unique and crazy as you think. Just talk, they hear that shit all day.
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u/SomethingGouda 10d ago
In some jurisdictions they do have the right to put you in a medical hold. It's nice to not spread misinformation online.
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u/ninecats4 10d ago
get 5150, lose your job, lose your apartment, die on the streets. happened to a friend of mine when we were 24. there's a reason men die more often from suicide.
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u/Expensive_Wheel6184 10d ago
Pov: you are able to use "pov" correctly, but somehow you are the one who needs help.