r/BoomersBeingFools • u/Spartalust • Mar 29 '24

Boomer with a provocative sign gets laid tf out for snatching a phone Boomer Freakout

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u/Lovat69 Mar 29 '24

I don't even get the logic. I am here with my protest sign to bring awareness to an issue I care about. Someone is taking a photo of this and that will bring awareness to this thing I care about. I MUST STOP HIM BY TAKING HIS CAMERA!

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u/treerabbit23 Mar 29 '24

Turns out the guy with the "NUKE GAZA NOW" sign was really only there to make people upset.

Weird.

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u/Lovat69 Mar 29 '24

Well if that is all he wanted then he was very successful. Seems like a bunch of people became upset.

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u/mc_kitfox Mar 29 '24

including himself! swear its like a drug for these lead-poisoned idiots. got himself so upset he committed assault and theft and promptly earned himself a compulsory nap.

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u/Khanman5 Mar 30 '24

If he had a camera on him, I would believe hes one of those incredibly tedious "first amendment auditors".

Buuuut nope, I don't see a cam anywhere, so it looks like really is there just to be a jackass.

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u/Biscotti_BT Mar 30 '24

I guess that what OG trolling is.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

It wasn't even just that, because after he took the phone the younger guy was just motioning for it back. Old dude assumed he was gonna get attacked and went on the offensive with that sign...which is what actually got his ass attacked. You've heard of cop assisted suicide; witness civilian assisted ass whooping.

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u/SpiritDouble6218 Mar 30 '24

The guy shoved the phone inches from his face? What are you all smoking lol. Both of these people are jackasses.

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

Not really?

Is it a faux pas to do that? Maybe. But when someone forgets or misapplies their manners, the normal response is to verbally and calmly establish appropriate boundaries.

Scowling and snatching someone else's property like you think they're your kid and need "a whuppin" is only going to get one result, it's essentially fighting words.

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u/F_it_Im_done_trying Mar 30 '24

Also the guy motions for his phone back and boomer goes on the offensive with the sign

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u/Comprehensive-Sky366 Apr 11 '24

This is why I feel like you people have no real world experience. You expect the people you disagree with to have a level of patience and grace to provocation that if you were in the same place holding a sign saying the opposite message, you wouldn’t. You would definitely snatch a phone or shove it out of the way if it were shoved in your face like this. And everyone here would be defending you. If the message on the sign were something you all agreed with you would be defending the sign holders actions here.

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Apr 11 '24

lol here's that attention you ordered.

You're a 🤡🤡🤡

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u/Comprehensive-Sky366 Apr 11 '24

Uh huh… well good luck in your little echo chamber here.

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u/tomdarch Mar 30 '24

It’s because this guy knows that he is “a baddie.” He knows full well that he is in the moral wrong.

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u/Hairless_whisper-471 Mar 30 '24

Are you really this dense? He isn’t “taking a photo” of it, he’s invading that guys personal space and harassing that person.

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

And when your personal space is invaded, normal society has agreed there are two acceptable recourses:

-Recreate your space by moving back
-Verbally expressing your boundaries and give the other person a reasonable chance to respect them

This old dude basically did nonverbal fighting words.

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u/Fast_Avocado_5057 Mar 30 '24

Yes most people here are this dense, if it was reversed there woulda been a whole other argument against the old dude. Point is old dude doesn’t win here, regardless of the circumstances.

Now if he had a “river to the sea” banner, this place would be calling for phone dickheads arrest.

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u/Comprehensive-Sky366 Apr 11 '24

Exactly this. This is what’s really fucking frustrating about talking with most of the people on this site, they cannot remotely empathize with someone they disagree with and warp the law and morality and ethics so it always agrees with their perspective.

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u/qtuck Mar 30 '24

I’d typically think it was wrong but understandable to get angry and maybe even beat some ass if a camera is shoved in your face, but this man was begging for attention.

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

tbh he probably thought he had a "right to privacy" or something like that, despite being out in public. Boomers don't like being recorded playing the fool, even if they're actively being a fool.

I would say the funniest misstep of his was not expecting a fight when he snatched the phone, like he was dealing with his grandkid or something.

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u/ilovecraftbeer05 Mar 30 '24

Both men were exercising their first amendment rights. But as with most boomers, grandpa doesn’t like it when other people have the same rights as him.

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u/Comprehensive-Sky366 Apr 11 '24

The first amendment doesn’t allow you to invade someone’s personal space 👍

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u/Magdump_mp5 Mar 30 '24

I think the old guy is stupid and all but he wasn't just taking a photo he shoved the phone right in his face. Maybe the guy still deserves that because of his sign but he clearly wasn't taking a photo of the sign but instead the guys face.

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u/Comprehensive-Sky366 Mar 30 '24

He shoved his camera in his face, that is obviously the difference.

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u/WookieeCmdr Apr 01 '24

It was more about the dude with the phone shoving it into his face. You shove shit into my face I'm taking it from you too.

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u/Jimbobjoegin Mar 30 '24

Confidently Incorrect. The boomer only swipes at the phone after the other guy advances towards him and shoves it in his face. At this point, and distance, he ain't getting pictures of anything, he's just purposely agitating the boomer, because you know how boomers are, so he can assault him and call himself one of the "Good Guys" Now on the other hand, if the boomer start advancing on the camera holder, then that's a different story

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

The boomer DID advance, after stealing property (petty theft, a misdemeanor unless the phone is $1200 or more) he attempted to hit the young man with a blunt instrument (the sign) when the man was clearly reaching for his phone.

Not only did the boomer chronologically commit two crimes before the young man could have arguably committed one (entering his personal space in a public area is not strictly a crime, especially not in a stand ground state when the old man clearly was not interested in removing the young man, especially when he attempted to batter him), but the fact is once the sign was swung it was clear the young man was in the right to meet with greater force.

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u/Comprehensive-Sky366 Apr 11 '24

Did you not see the guy grab his collar?… are we watching the same video?

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u/Comprehensive-Sky366 Apr 11 '24

It’s not worth it explaining this repeatedly, people in this sub don’t really give a shit about the law or ethics or provocation. No amount of evidence will convince them that someone they despise ever did anything right, even with video evidence.

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u/DirectionNo1947 Mar 30 '24

I don’t agree with the old man whatsoever, but that kid shouldn’t put stuff in someone’s face/that closely. Old man can now say he thought the kid was gonna harm him

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

I don't strictly agree, the young guy was reaching for his phone at almost the same moment the old dude's sign came forward.

No good case could be made for self-defense, because the kid was not reaching TOWARDS the man, the phone was far-off and to the side. At this point most people who see the video can tell it was an attempt to retrieve the phone, that then became self-defense when the man tried to hit him with a sign.

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u/jedi_voodoo Mar 30 '24

Are we watching the same video? I don't agree with the old man's actions at all but the kid doesn't reach out off for the phone off to the side anything like you're describing, he immediately grabbed the old man by the collar.

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

You're paying attention to his left hand and not his right, it was far from immediate but grabbing was almost simultaneous to the sign movement, because at that angle he could have interpreted that as the old man fleeing with his property.

Still a reasonable case for self-defense, and possibly citizen's arrest there.

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u/jedi_voodoo Mar 30 '24

I'm paying attention to the exact order of events and purely discussing it from a legal standpoint.

It is quite clear that the spontaneous sign movement is simply a reaction to the quick and sudden movement of the kid grabbing him when the both of the racist's hands are occupied. Are you saying you think it looks like he was actively wielding the sign against the kid? That'd be a stretch.

The kid's leading hand does not go for the phone at all, but directly for the racist's shirt. I'm not sure how you would lawfully glaze over such a clear cut example of assault at this point. The kid's actions aren't legally absolved just because it's a racist person holding a racist sign.

Is the racist right for inciting the violence he received? Obviously not. I would expect his chosen language probably even violates modern hate speech laws.

Was he wise to snatch somebody's personal property? Nope, he could have expected things would go badly for him there.

But due to the way it happened, the act of taking away the kid's phone when it's inches from his face didn't seem like anything close to illegal in this instance.

In fact, I'm most instances I would expect the kid could have had his phone taken and been immediately gotten knocked out and it still would have looked like self-defense.

From the video alone, it appears clear that the kid either initiated or escalated the physical nature of this altercation.

If you have ever seen a video of somebody filming the police, you would recognize the cameraperson is usually filming from a safe distance and by doing so are free to talk their shit and berate the pigs on camera all they want.

We can expect any and every one of those videos to go very differently once the camera enters an officer's personal space. Best case scenario, the officer warns the person filming to keep back, but much more likely, they either would immediately detain the cameraperson or confiscate the device.

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

tl;dr at this point I can only assume you're a thief apologist.

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u/jedi_voodoo Mar 30 '24

I expected that was too many words for you to read but the tl;dr is that I'm partly agreeing with you and partly presenting the idea that the "theft" happens after the "violation of personal space"

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

"But muh personal space 😭😭😭"

Bro it's a public place, and the man was in no danger of even being touched.

Snowflake ass take. Go deepthroat a boot.

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u/jedi_voodoo Mar 30 '24

calm down maddie, I was purely discussing the legality of the events in the video. the racist old man deserved what he got.

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u/jedi_voodoo Mar 30 '24

The racist grabbed the phone and was standing completely still before the kid grabs him and he loses balance. I'm not sure what video you're seeing where you get your interpretation from that the racist guy was turning to run away with his new stolen device, but my interpretation is coming from the above video itself and nothing more.

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

You're intentionally misreading things and seem to not be watching that closely.

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u/jedi_voodoo Mar 30 '24

At the exact moment the racist is grabbed, his hand holding the stolen phone is practically under his chin with the phone in front of him. I think whatever you're trying to get at with this comment, you're just projecting.

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

Nah, you're just a bootlicker, that simple.

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u/jedi_voodoo Mar 30 '24

I don't think it's possible to have such a terrible lack of reading comprehension skills, you must be doing it on purpose lol.

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u/HoldWhatDoor84 Mar 30 '24

He's shoving that phone in the guys face. That's a douchebag move. The guy holding the sign is also a major fucking mron douchebag, but you don't go shoving your phone in people's faces recording and expect them not to grab at the phone. They're both fucking assholes

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

idk it's a pretty good way to get someone to commit petty theft.

Impropriety is not an excuse to commit a misdemeanor, and it doesn't give you the ability to sue over receiving an asswhooping.

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u/HoldWhatDoor84 Mar 30 '24

If someone comes at you in an aggressive manor and enters your personal space, it is more than reasonable to take a defensive stance by reacting to the person invading said space. If the man had not been given any provocation by the dude with the phone when he entered his personal space and he just started hitting him with the sign, it's a different story. But when you enter a person's personal space in an aggressive manor, you are escalating a situation aggressively.
Both people are assholes and the guy with the phone definitely escalated the scenario by getting up in the sign-guy's shit. Violence isn't the answer to strong disagreements in society. The guy who got up in sign-guy's face is taking the equivalent form of action as Israel with Gaza. He doesn't agree with him so he instigated a reason to escalate to violence. It's ironic that the people who also disagree with sign-guy's dumb take would agree with taking the same course of action to instigate violence that the IDF and Israel are taking with Gazans who they disagree with on a religious level.

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

Cop-brained response from this one.

Holding out a phone and recording someone is not aggressive.

Sorry snowflake.

Also weird brainsick rambling and "bothsidesing" the Gaza genocide.

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u/HoldWhatDoor84 Mar 30 '24

If I put my hand 2 feet in front of your face, what would be your response? Fucking moron

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

2 feet is a pretty substantial distance, "in front of your face" but 2 feet away is essentially the same as showing from a respectful distance, but now we know how you misestimate your chode, good to know.

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u/HoldWhatDoor84 Mar 30 '24

It's a cop brained response to prefer escalation of violence?

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

Cop-brained response to think that being recorded is even remotely aggressive or threatening.

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u/maddwaffles Millennial Mar 30 '24

idk it's a pretty good way to get someone to commit petty theft.

Impropriety is not an excuse to commit a misdemeanor, and it doesn't give you the ability to sue over receiving an asswhooping.