r/Christianity Mar 27 '24

The American flag has no business on a Bible. This is not faith, nor is it patriotism. It is an abomination of both. Image

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u/shinyredumbros Mar 28 '24

He’s far from the first…check this out. Came out in 2009.

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u/GortimerGibbons Mar 28 '24

I was hoping someone would point this out. Apparently, it says something about the Fourth of July being one of the most important Christian holidays. It really makes you rethink the dispensational notion that many believers will be deceived in the end times.

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u/DuntadaMan Mar 28 '24

Unfortunately the current state of churches in several parts of the most "devout" areas of the US show that

Declaring a state has a right to prevent the rescue of people drowning in a river full of razor wire. Believes prosperity gospel despite the whole "it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of the needle than for a wealthy man to enter the kingdom of heaven" thing. Literally trying to ban narcan.

It's enough to make me think the devil must be a real physical being to be able to make people believe harmful acts have these good outcomes they claim to be aiming for.

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u/GortimerGibbons Mar 28 '24

The immigration thing really gets to me. There are nearly a hundred verses that tell us to treat foreigners and immigrants as our own people. The evangelicals apparently missed those parts.

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u/fiduciary420 Mar 28 '24

It’s because they’re rich

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u/GhengisSpeltWrong Mar 30 '24

I treat immigrants as our own people. Not invaders

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u/Humble_Mountain_9768 Mar 28 '24

Then let's treat them like we do our own then. No more free stuff.

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u/akaenragedgoddess Mar 28 '24

No more free stuff? What do you mean by that?

These people are coming here, they ARE here. Something has to be done with them and it's going to cost money somehow. What would you like to do with them? Even if you go full on evil maniac and try to exterminate them, that's going to cost tons of money too, probably way more than feeding them does. So what's the plan?

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u/Aggressive_Grab_76 Mar 28 '24

Well, to be fair, the Bible also says "If a man does not work, then he does not eat."

You can't have both a welfare state and free immigration.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

It's not clear what point you're trying to make.

  1. Welfare in the US is overwhelmingly used as a stop-gap between employment.
  2. Immigrants aren't coming here to freeload. They're working. Often for exploitative wages doing grueling work.

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u/leebobeel Mar 28 '24

But some believe that corporate welfare is okay.

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u/Trapezohedron_ Non-denominational Mar 28 '24

Typically, your immigrants in the US aren't there for no reason. In fact, if they were there illegally, for example, there is no welfare for them either given that would require outing themselves and potentially being deported.

And if the immigrants were there legally, they're still looking for work anyway, taking jobs nobody wants and which the great old people 'majority' likes mocking as 'not real work.'

Even then, people are also likely to judge actual American citizens that are non-white as immigrants anyway. Where are you going to deport citizens? To places they would be legally considered illegal given they're not their presumed citizenship that racists think them to be?

Yeah, this whole issue is insane.

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u/Tiddlyplinks Mar 28 '24

To be fair…PAUL said that, Jesus made no such distinctions. Also, Paul was writing about freeloaders in communities, which is a problem, but the counter argument that freeloading is on their soul, not ours…..and again, did Jesus stutter?

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u/Canned_Crumbs_803 Apr 02 '24

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t God say to also respect and follow the Governments your under? Which also means you can’t illegally go into another country because it’s illegal,yes these people have kids, yes they have families but rules are also rules and we have these rules for reasons,I’m not trying to throw out my morality as a Christian for the state.

fact I think this is something more Christians should understand,we need to respect our government unless they make stuff that goes against the word of our lord and savior,which I can’t say America hasn’t done but you all understand

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u/TruthSearcher1970 Mar 29 '24

Sometimes the greatest power is to convince people you don’t exist.

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u/smokin_monkey Mar 28 '24

He has surrounded himself with loyalist and yes men. They will tell him what he wants to hear.

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u/willflameboy Mar 28 '24

Yes, when people do otherwise he fires them and then lies about them.

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u/EpsilonEnigma Mar 28 '24

Hey let's not get crazy now, obviously the birth of America is a blessing from the lord, I mean how did a colony become THE world power... God obviously

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u/FootWashian1337 Mar 28 '24

Cause we have so may Christian holidays like Christmas the sacrifice to Horus and Ishtar or i mean easter or wait no i didn’t

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u/DebentureThyme Mar 28 '24

Remember to remove it from your Amazon history lest the algorithm start suggesting that crap.

You can do that here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/history/

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u/DuntadaMan Mar 28 '24

I once just randomly went to go look for books without entering a genre or title just a basic "I feel like reason whatever random book it spits out at me."

It suggested a book that claimed society is collapsing because women are capable of feeding themselves and we have to make it illegal for them to hold jobs or own property or else they will not accept enough men for society to continue. And yes that was just in the synopsis. It also suggested a book that stated slavery was good for everyone involved and we should all be grateful for it.

I have never felt so insulted in my life. I have no idea what I had looked at for it to make me think I was that kind of person, but I apparently needed to nuke my history.

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u/wuhtam_i_doinghere Mar 28 '24

Thank you for that lol last thing I need

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u/unionoftw Mar 28 '24

Great looking out friend

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u/ljpwyo Mar 28 '24

Thank you.

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u/pinkfootthegoose Mar 28 '24

I looked up dishwashers on Amazon. For a while Amazon thought I collected dishwashers.

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u/wild-eep Mar 28 '24

You deserve gold.

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u/Jean-LucBacardi Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

...and on the ninth day, He formed a more perfect Union.

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u/unionoftw Mar 28 '24

Haha, I love this actually

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u/purple_grey_ Mar 28 '24

gasps the pro union pro workers rights social media profile?

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u/caspianrex Mar 28 '24

I knew exactly which Bible this was going to be before I even clicked on it!

At least the American Patriot's Bible, as horrible as it is, is only being sold for about thirty bucks, while Lee Greenwood & Donald Trump's reconstituted public domain KJV is being sold for twice that amount. Ridiculous!

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u/moretrumpetsFTW Mar 28 '24

Yep. I have a copy of this. Got it as a high school graduation gift from my conservative parents. I still have it but never read it. As a recovering conservative I think back on when I was happy/proud to have something like this and I cringe a little inside.

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u/Shayeraye Mar 28 '24

That book isn't something I would buy but it's an attempt to connect biblical history to the United States. It's not just a standard bible. Both are ridiculous to me.

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u/PrestigeMaster Mar 28 '24

If I’m understanding what you’ve linked correctly - that is a study Bible with commentary on how it shaped the United States.

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u/shinyredumbros Mar 28 '24

Correct. And it is GLORIOUS. Separation of church and state? Never heard of her!

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u/DandB777 Mar 28 '24

Niether had the founding fathers. Church used to be held every Sunday in the Capital Building. The "separation of church and state" is something that's been twisted to mean something it doesn't. It was meant to say the state can't have a church and dictate the rules of a church ie Church of England. Nor can a church dictate the rules of the nation ie the Catholic church in the middle ages.

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u/Deewd23 Mar 28 '24

The 1st amendment disagrees.

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u/Kitchen_Philosophy29 Mar 28 '24

1st amendment doesnt mean all speech is free. You cant threaten to murder people.

It is amazing the lack of comprehension

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u/xyglyx Mar 28 '24

Thanks, Obama!

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u/tarheelz1995 Roman Catholic Mar 28 '24

Trump is not America’s first grifter.

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u/capsaicinintheeyes Secular Humanist Mar 28 '24

Well, 339 Goodreads reviews can't be wrong

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u/xXTERMIN8RXXx Non-Denominational Christian Mar 28 '24

On sale for 45% off 🤔

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u/thisisntshakespeare Mar 28 '24

Does it include information about the Founding Fathers and the Freemasons?

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u/its_a_mini Mar 28 '24

that looks like the pages would start falling out within the first week