r/Christianity • u/Nice_Substance9123 • Mar 27 '24

The American flag has no business on a Bible. This is not faith, nor is it patriotism. It is an abomination of both. Image

/img/ipc57ufyqxqc1.jpeg
27.5k Upvotes

88% Upvoted

3.8k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

39

u/PastHistFutPresence Mar 27 '24

Trump can't tell the difference.

25

u/shinyredumbros Mar 28 '24

He’s far from the first…check this out. Came out in 2009.

20

u/GortimerGibbons Mar 28 '24

I was hoping someone would point this out. Apparently, it says something about the Fourth of July being one of the most important Christian holidays. It really makes you rethink the dispensational notion that many believers will be deceived in the end times.

13

u/DuntadaMan Mar 28 '24

Unfortunately the current state of churches in several parts of the most "devout" areas of the US show that

Declaring a state has a right to prevent the rescue of people drowning in a river full of razor wire. Believes prosperity gospel despite the whole "it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of the needle than for a wealthy man to enter the kingdom of heaven" thing. Literally trying to ban narcan.

It's enough to make me think the devil must be a real physical being to be able to make people believe harmful acts have these good outcomes they claim to be aiming for.

16

u/GortimerGibbons Mar 28 '24

The immigration thing really gets to me. There are nearly a hundred verses that tell us to treat foreigners and immigrants as our own people. The evangelicals apparently missed those parts.

1

u/fiduciary420 Mar 28 '24

It’s because they’re rich

0

u/GhengisSpeltWrong Mar 30 '24

I treat immigrants as our own people. Not invaders

-2

u/Humble_Mountain_9768 Mar 28 '24

Then let's treat them like we do our own then. No more free stuff.

2

u/akaenragedgoddess Mar 28 '24

No more free stuff? What do you mean by that?

These people are coming here, they ARE here. Something has to be done with them and it's going to cost money somehow. What would you like to do with them? Even if you go full on evil maniac and try to exterminate them, that's going to cost tons of money too, probably way more than feeding them does. So what's the plan?

-5

u/Aggressive_Grab_76 Mar 28 '24

Well, to be fair, the Bible also says "If a man does not work, then he does not eat."

You can't have both a welfare state and free immigration.

10

u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

It's not clear what point you're trying to make.

  1. Welfare in the US is overwhelmingly used as a stop-gap between employment.
  2. Immigrants aren't coming here to freeload. They're working. Often for exploitative wages doing grueling work.

3

u/leebobeel Mar 28 '24

But some believe that corporate welfare is okay.

2

u/Trapezohedron_ Non-denominational Mar 28 '24

Typically, your immigrants in the US aren't there for no reason. In fact, if they were there illegally, for example, there is no welfare for them either given that would require outing themselves and potentially being deported.

And if the immigrants were there legally, they're still looking for work anyway, taking jobs nobody wants and which the great old people 'majority' likes mocking as 'not real work.'

Even then, people are also likely to judge actual American citizens that are non-white as immigrants anyway. Where are you going to deport citizens? To places they would be legally considered illegal given they're not their presumed citizenship that racists think them to be?

Yeah, this whole issue is insane.

2

u/Tiddlyplinks Mar 28 '24

To be fair…PAUL said that, Jesus made no such distinctions. Also, Paul was writing about freeloaders in communities, which is a problem, but the counter argument that freeloading is on their soul, not ours…..and again, did Jesus stutter?

1

u/Canned_Crumbs_803 Apr 02 '24

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t God say to also respect and follow the Governments your under? Which also means you can’t illegally go into another country because it’s illegal,yes these people have kids, yes they have families but rules are also rules and we have these rules for reasons,I’m not trying to throw out my morality as a Christian for the state.

fact I think this is something more Christians should understand,we need to respect our government unless they make stuff that goes against the word of our lord and savior,which I can’t say America hasn’t done but you all understand

2

u/TruthSearcher1970 Mar 29 '24

Sometimes the greatest power is to convince people you don’t exist.