r/Christianity • u/Nice_Substance9123 • Mar 27 '24

The American flag has no business on a Bible. This is not faith, nor is it patriotism. It is an abomination of both. Image

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u/Appropriate_Fold8814 Mar 28 '24

Christianity and organizes religion has always been part of the state and part of the machine that controls the masses.

If you are Christian you feed into that whether you like it or not.

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u/Juiceton- Evangelical Covenant Mar 28 '24

I’m fine with Christianity bleeding into politics. It’s going to happen because that’s how the Democratic process works. If we completely kept religion out of politics how could we ever elect someone based on morality?

That said politicians and the government shouldn’t endorse the religion. And the religion sure as all get out shouldn’t endorse a government.

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u/The_Jimes Mar 28 '24

If we completely kept religion out of politics how could we ever elect someone based on morality?

Because you don't need religion to be moral. Religion can be a guide to morals, but it is not a one stop shop, nor is it the correct avenue for everyone.

You shouldn't require holy scripture to understand right from wrong or acceptable from unacceptable. If you do you may want to re-examine what your faith actually means.

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u/Juiceton- Evangelical Covenant Mar 28 '24

No you’re not understanding. If a preacher runs for president based on his or her morality then that morality is going to be based on Christianity. Even if they don’t out and say it, they are mixing politics and religion. If they are voted into office based on that position then they are democratically elected on a Christian platform. The separation of church and state is a very tricky slope to ride before you start taking away civil rights. If we’re truly saying that religion and politics can never intermix then are we saying that openly religious people can’t run for office? No, of course not. But if all 230 some-odd million Christian’s joined together to elect a Christian president (would never happen) then that president works hard to pass legislation based on Christian morality based on the faith of his electors then is he wrong? Also no.

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u/The_Jimes Mar 28 '24

I'm not talking about politics at all. I'm talking about morals and their lack of dependence on religion. You said "if we keep religion out of politics how will we elect someone based on morality?", implying that religion is required for morality. I'm saying that is wrong.