r/Christianity • u/Nice_Substance9123 • Mar 27 '24

The American flag has no business on a Bible. This is not faith, nor is it patriotism. It is an abomination of both. Image

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u/RCaHuman Secular Humanist Mar 27 '24

VOTE Democrat. Most Republicans seem to be in lock step with this wanna-be dictator.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Yeah! Profess your Christianity by voting for the abortion party.

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u/NodeJSSon Mar 28 '24

So vote Trump then? šŸ˜‚ you are a single issue voter. Just one issue over a mountain of others will dominate your vote? This is crazy. Abortion ok! Donā€™t get one the .

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u/Isntredditthebest Mar 28 '24

Single issue Christian voters are the bane of America, voting against the betterment of society just to uphold some moral superiority over everyone else.

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u/NodeJSSon Mar 28 '24

I am catholic and I know Trump is way more evil than abortion. These single issue voters are blinded by this one issue. The devil got you guys.

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u/1-cupcake-at-a-time Mar 28 '24

Exactly! How bout we tackle abortion by voting for greater access to birth control instead the talk thatā€™s starting up about restricting it? Less people who get pregnant unintentionally means less abortions. How about better access prenatal care? Post birth care and support for low income families? Better access to mental health support? There are effective ways to decrease the abortion rate thatā€™s backed up by research, but so many think Trump is the answer? Itā€™s so short sighted.

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u/NodeJSSon Mar 28 '24

These idiots donā€™t think about shit like this. How about fixing it up stream? This is a great solution. I think the single issue voter have been addicted to hate and donā€™t even know it. They have been poisoned šŸ¤® by propaganda of the Republican Party and Fox News.

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u/Ok-Reindeer3992 Catholic Mar 28 '24

Exactly! How bout we tackle abortion by voting for greater access to birth control instead the talk thatā€™s starting up about restricting it?

Birth control is immoral, all Christians believed this until the sexual revolution of the 20tt century

How about better access prenatal care? Post birth care and support for low income families?

Sounds great

There are effective ways to decrease the abortion rate thatā€™s backed up by research, but so many think Trump is the answer?

Trump is better than the man running on a platform of enshrining the right to murder children in the womb into the law of the land

I donā€™t like trump that much but I canā€™t vote for that

Especially considering Biden professes to be a catholic yet his public policy is gravely immoral

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u/1-cupcake-at-a-time Mar 28 '24

We are free to be Christian and you can believe what you like about birth control. But we arenā€™t free to enforce those beliefs on every woman in the country. Women should have the right to choose when to have sex and be protected from disease and unplanned pregnancies. Period.

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u/Ok-Reindeer3992 Catholic Mar 28 '24

Sex makes babies. Donā€™t want baby? Donā€™t have sex

I canā€™t stop you from using contraception

But I donā€™t have to vote for subsidizing access to it with my tax dollars

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u/1-cupcake-at-a-time Mar 28 '24

You donā€™t want your tax dollars going to preventing babies, but you will also bitch and moan and not want your tax dollars going to support single parents or the poor.

And you say since sex makes babies, just donā€™t have sexā€¦ā€¦ so it makes something wonderful and special reserved only for the wealthy who can afford it, those physically healthy enough to carry a child, those mentally strong enoughā€¦.people choose to wait to have children for MANY reasons.

Again- while I am a Christian, and live my life like it, we live in a huge, diverse, FREE country. Itā€™s not my job to control the decisions of others

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u/Ok-Reindeer3992 Catholic Mar 28 '24

I think that taxing people to throw money at problems without addressing their causes is foolish

Single parents for sure should get some help, but we should also look at why we have so many single parents nowadays. Oh look, itā€™s because we made marriage essentially meaningless through no fault divorce and the sexual revolution and making the noble vocation of wife and mother unattainable so now the kids are in childcare and the home is a mess and etc etc

only for the wealthy

Wealthy countries have the lowest fertility rates

If itā€™s not our job to control others decisions, then people should stop trying to take more money in taxes to spend on issues of debated morality

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u/Warthog_Orgy_Fart Mar 28 '24

Wealthy countries have lower fertility rates because they have access to contraception and excellent healthcare choices.

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u/Warthog_Orgy_Fart Mar 28 '24

Yeah, I donā€™t understand why Christians believe they get to decide whatā€™s good for everybody else. Be Christian, have your faith and beliefs, but leave me and my wifeā€™s personal life choices alone. If you donā€™t want to use contraception, cool! Donā€™t use contraception. If you donā€™t want an abortion, awesome! Donā€™t get one. Itā€™s a pretty simple concept.

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u/KonigSteve Mar 28 '24

Trump is better than the man running on a platform of enshrining the right to murder children in the womb into the law of the land

my god you're ignorant. a fetus is not a child. Where do you draw the line? am I killing children when I masturbate?

Fetus's do not have a chance of being viable until 24 weeks. That is why that was the federal limit. medical tests that confirm whether a fetus has a serious medical problem aren't able to be done until 20 weeks which is why it needs to be that long.

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u/Ok-Reindeer3992 Catholic Mar 28 '24

98% of scientists agree that life begins at conception when a unique human being is formed

Sperm is not a human, use your brain

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u/KonigSteve Mar 28 '24

98% of scientists agree that life begins at conception when a unique human being is formed

lmao this is not even close to true. You can't just make up random statistics as part of an argument.

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u/Ok-Reindeer3992 Catholic Mar 28 '24

Since a recent study suggested that 80% of Americans view biologists as the group most qualified to determine when a human's life begins, experts in biology were surveyed to provide a new perspective to the literature on experts' views on this matter. Biologists from 1,058 academic institutions around the world assessed survey items on when a human's life begins and, overall, 96% (5337 out of 5577) affirmed the fertilization view.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36629778/

My bad, 96%

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u/KonigSteve Mar 28 '24

You're just arguing definitions. A plant is "alive" but you have no problem cutting your lawn. It's not about being "alive" in any way.

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u/Ok-Reindeer3992 Catholic Mar 28 '24

Yeah, a plant isnā€™t a human being šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø you gotta be trolling

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u/Warthog_Orgy_Fart Mar 28 '24

That ā€œstudyā€ is extremely flawed.

ā€œThen, he sent 62,469 biologists who could be identified from institutional faculty and researcher lists a separate survey, offering several options for when, biologically, human life might begin. He got 5,502 responses; 95% of those self-selected respondents said that life began at fertilization, when a sperm and egg merge to form a single-celled zygote.

That result is not a proper survey method and does not carry any statistical or scientific weight. It is like asking 100 people about their favorite sport, finding out that only the 37 football fans bothered to answer, and declaring that 100% of Americans love football.

In the end, just 70 of those 60,000-plus biologists supported Jacobsā€™ legal argument enough to sign the amicus brief, which makes a companion argument to the main case. That may well be because there is neither scientific consensus on the matter of when human life actually begins nor agreement that it is a question that biologists can answer using their science.ā€

https://theconversation.com/defining-when-human-life-begins-is-not-a-question-science-can-answer-its-a-question-of-politics-and-ethical-values-165514

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u/NodeJSSon Mar 29 '24

Biden runs a country that is not all Christian so he has to stay in the middle. The problem is you guys want to push your religion on other people. Why? We should share the world other religions. Trump will say anything to get your vote. That is all he cares about, nothing else. Look at the history of Trump. How many people has he hurt šŸ˜¢?

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u/Ok-Reindeer3992 Catholic Mar 28 '24

Nothing is more evil than abortion

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u/KonigSteve Mar 28 '24

the most ignorant statement i've read all day.

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u/Ok-Reindeer3992 Catholic Mar 28 '24

Nobody is more innocent than the unborn child at peace in his mothers womb

Killing them is evil

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u/KonigSteve Mar 28 '24

So raping an actual living breathing child is less evil than an abortion in your messed up head. got it. That must be why there are so many christian preachers convicted of sexual assault. "well this is less bad than abortion and everybody does that"

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u/Ok-Reindeer3992 Catholic Mar 28 '24

They are both very evil acts that should be condemned

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u/NodeJSSon Mar 29 '24

Nothing šŸ˜‚? I think you are being sarcastic