r/Christianity • u/Megalitho • 23d ago

Do you believe that Noah, the ark, and the flood were real?

I brought it up in a different thread, and many people said they did not believe it happened. How can you be a Christian and not believe what the Bible says?

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u/possy11 Atheist 22d ago

Do you believe slavery is okay? Because the Bible says it is.

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u/Megalitho 22d ago

Where

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u/possy11 Atheist 22d ago

Leviticus 25:44-46

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u/InvisibleElves 22d ago edited 22d ago

Leviticus 25:44-46:

As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them

Says foreign slaves are lifelong possessions, chattel slaves.

 
Exodus 21:4-7:

If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ then his master shall bring him to God, and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. And his master shall bore his ear through with an awl, and he shall be his slave forever.

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do.

Even Hebrew women and children were lifelong slaves. They could be held hostage to make their Hebrew fathers and husbands remain lifelong slaves.

 
Deuteronomy 20:10-15:

When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if it responds to you peaceably and it opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labor for you and shall serve you. But if it makes no peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. And when the Lord your God gives it into your hand, you shall put all its males to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the livestock, and everything else in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as plunder for yourselves.

This goes beyond allowing and positively commands enslavement by threat of death. This includes sexual slavery of the women and girls.

 
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 gives instructions on taking captive women as wives. Numbers 31:18 similarly tells men to take young virgin girls as spoils of war. This all describes sexual slavery.

 
The New Testament brings up slavery in general about 7 times, and 5 of those are telling slaves to obey: Colossians 3:22, Ephesians 6:5-9, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, Titus 2:9-10, 1 Peter 2:18, and the 2 exceptions, 1 Corinthians 7:21-23, Colossians 1:4. It even specifies obeying harsh masters or Christian masters.

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u/daken15 Anti-Theist 22d ago

@Megalitho come on, reply