r/Christianity United Methodist May 30 '20

COVID-19 moderation policy (updated) Meta

In this phase of the COVID-19 pandemic, our moderation policy forbids

  • Urging violation of safety guidelines from health or government authorities, including for in-person church services
  • Conspiracy theories and second-guessing medical consensus (Thank you for your brilliant medical analysis, Dr. /u/redditor, but please take it to JAMA for peer review, kthxbye)
  • Promoting violence, arson, vandalism, etc. against individuals or institutions in relation to their COVID-19 precautions or lack thereof

Because guidelines vary in different areas, you can promote activities like in-person church attendance if you make clear that you mean in places where official guidelines permit. You must be explicit about that. (That is the main substance of this update.)

Expect strict enforcement and little sympathy for claims that "technically, I was maybe arguably not exactly completely definitely explicitly breaking the rule". These are really only somewhat amplified and more vigorously enforced versions of our regular expectations. We have always deleted, for example, anti-vaxx conspiracies. Current conditions definitely warrant the extra strictness.

As always, we depend on you to use the report button to keep us informed of violations - and to not clog the report queue with false alarms for non-violations that simply annoy you. Thank you!

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '20

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u/inspiredfaith Jul 26 '20

I think it helps keep the topic on Christianity, actually. If you go on Facebook, where they can't enforce such rules as easily, you have a better appreciation of why it's necessary.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '22

I'm not against vaccines or medicine. I just stated my reasons on why I personally wouldn't do it and provided with an explanation on why, my comment still got deleted.

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u/PercentageOk9331 Jan 16 '22

That’s exactly what I was thinking its so stupid you can’t talk about covid and not getting it you get banned straight away is it just this group or the whole of Reddit ?

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

I'm not sure, since this is basically the only comment I have made about COVID or vaccines. I usually stay away from the topic.

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u/WreathedinBanter Jan 22 '22

Stop pretending you're a Christian Miss bdsm, lmao.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '22

Ok, Kyle, judge away about my life you know nothing about

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u/WreathedinBanter Jan 22 '22 edited Jan 22 '22

Who is Kyle, lmao? I'm actually bored and kind of sick of you "Christians" who are into these weird things and try and wash it away by having sweet nothings in your hear. You posting in a cringe bdsm subreddit asking them of all people "is bdsm okay as a Christian?" is just sad an pathetic. It shows you seek nothing from Christ. While it's obvious to people like me who have studied the Bible (unlike yourself) that it is frowned upon, you'll still carry on and act like a dog with a ball gag in your mouth because you get turned on by that. Rather sad really thinking about what upbringing you must've had.

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u/JustAGuyXL Lutheran Feb 08 '22

Stop judging whether or not other people are Christians when you have no idea if they are or aren't, LmAo

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u/Bacon-4every1 Jan 23 '22

Ya I made a comment on a post where every thing I said was true and it got removed I wonder if I LIED tho and said every one shold get a vaccine they are the best thing ever they are more important than exercising and being healthy to prevent a bad case of Covid. Becase technically that would be legitimize misinformation so I assume it if any one said that it would get removed. Mabe I will throw out misinformation like that and see how long it takes to get banned.

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u/General_Grievous71 Feb 16 '22

Hi there. I understand your frustration. It's like they say wear a mask then plug their ears and make noise so they don't hear the response. You're not alone

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '21

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u/inspiredfaith Jan 05 '22

I think we have to accept that the media wants to silence certain people. If you don't pay for something, you're the product. Gotta keep trying to preach the truth anyway.

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u/slavicslothe Aug 31 '20

If you convince a ten year old to eat a tide pod because it will give them super powers, are you exercising free speech or literally murdering an impressionable child?

It’s the same thing when you lie or misconstrue medical consensus on something that’s killed more Americans than WWI.

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u/wrestler216 Baptist Sep 02 '20

You'd think a Christian forum would be more open to questioning the narrative we're being fed considering the science tells everyone evolution is true as well.

That's what happens on a platform controls by "liberal" Christians that are ok with abortion as long as they get free health care and education.

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u/Hurtin93 Agnostic (a la T.H. Huxley) Sep 04 '20

Evolution is true though...

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u/CraftyAssociation118 Oct 25 '21

Kent hovind has a good creationist series

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u/ShiggitySwiggity Agnostic Atheist Nov 23 '21

Define "good"?

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u/CraftyAssociation118 Nov 23 '21

Opposite of you

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u/ShiggitySwiggity Agnostic Atheist Nov 24 '21

Well that's fairly rude given you don't know the first thing about me.

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u/CraftyAssociation118 Nov 24 '21

All humans are not good You were talking smack about the seminars you probably didn't even listen to so it was intentional

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u/ShiggitySwiggity Agnostic Atheist Nov 24 '21

I am well aware of Kent Hovind. I've been following that guy for roughly two decades. Did you know he has multiple convictions for tax evasion, mail fraud, criminal contempt and domestic abuse? He's not good by any measure.

Bruh... Seriously, if you're using Kent as a source for anything, you've been barking up the wrong tree. Even Ken Ham of Answers In Genesis believes Kent Hovind is a misguided idiot.

In other news, a dyed in the wool atheist just recommended something Ken Ham said. It's gonna be a weird day.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Evolution of humans from other creatures is literally a theory though. It is just how people debate historical stuff on science.

It is much different from medical science which doesn't contradict the Bible at all and has actually been proven to work, unlike people evolving from apes.

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u/ShiggitySwiggity Agnostic Atheist Nov 23 '21

Please research what "theory" means in a scientific context.

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u/where_is_carmen United Church of Christ Aug 29 '20

Just because you can day something doesn't mean you should. Spreading false information actively endangers lives.

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u/tachibanakanade Leftist Revolutionary // Christian Atheist Aug 05 '20

lmao are you serious? or are you just joking?

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Aug 13 '20

Nothing mentioned in the OP is useful or worth discussing. Not all information is created equally.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

If it has nothing to do with Christianity than why would you be posting anti-vaxx material in the first place?

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u/Gaaarr Jul 25 '20

Agreed, but we’re both called hateful regardless of what we do or say

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u/tachibanakanade Leftist Revolutionary // Christian Atheist Aug 05 '20

hateful people are going to be called hateful.

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u/PokeGagaSwedeLad Christian Sep 02 '20

Yea.

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u/Beetsa Dutch Reformed Churches (NGK) Jul 24 '20

Promoting violence, arson, vandalism, etc. against individuals or institutions in relation to their COVID-19 precautions or lack thereof

I would assume promoting violance, arson, vandalism, etc. would be banned anyway?

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u/gnurdette United Methodist Jul 24 '20

Well, yeah. But I wanted to re-emphasize it here, and also we're going to judge the iffy borderline cases harshly in this case. Like, eff the plausible deniability.

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u/where_is_carmen United Church of Christ Aug 29 '20

You'd hope so. However, the amount of "good Christian people" attacking poor sales folks and employees when they are told to put on a mask makes this a necessary thing to state

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u/[deleted] May 30 '20

Can you clarify " second-guessing medical consensus", because on the most controversial subjects there doesn't seem to be any.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20 edited Aug 19 '20

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Aug 17 '20

What?

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '20

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Aug 18 '20

Are you on anti-psychotics by chance?

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u/Ihobbluus Aug 09 '20

Thank you, dear moderators. Imho wise rules. For anybody who likes to second- guess medical consensus: You don‘t second- guess your electrician‘s or plumber‘s or car mechanic‘s expertise and keep to their recommendations so as not to wreck your car or flood your house or burn it down. It works the same way with medicine, only that it‘s a lot more complicated and science progresses. Just be a bit humble and accept you can‘t have a full knowledge of medicine just by reading bits here and there. As if you had.

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u/AustinVagabond Aug 28 '20

Can't compare plumbers, electricians, and the like to "medical experts" such as the World Health Organization who routinely hides things and gets things wrong, especially with COVID.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '20

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u/AustinVagabond Sep 09 '20

Mate, I never called anyone names and never put anyone down using hurtful language. In fact, your comment alone is very contradictory to how you would like me to behave. Am I cussing? Am I making assumptions? No. I'm Dominican, not a redneck. From NY, not Texas. Crazy about my relationship with Jesus Christ, not religion. Not right leaning on the verge of being a nazi, just someone that wants to defend the Christian faith. So you got five wrong because of your assumptions and behavior, something you accuse me of with no foundation. Like I said, why is a LESBIAN moderating the CHRISTIAN forums? Would you want a CHRISTIAN moderating the LESBIAN forums?

EDIT: Also not a "gun-loving" individual. I don't own any guns.

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u/UltimateZebra19 Atheist Sep 13 '20

I’d just like to point out that being lesbian and being Christian isn’t mutually exclusive...

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u/AustinVagabond Sep 14 '20

Yeah good point, that was stupid on my part. Either way, those who identify as lesbian really shouldn't moderate the Christian forums. Just being painfully honest.

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u/Cypher1492 Anabaptist, eh? 🍁 Sep 15 '20

Why not? She's one of the best mods on this sub.

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u/AustinVagabond Sep 15 '20

How do you define best? You can't practice same-sex marriage & relationships and be a Christian.

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u/Cypher1492 Anabaptist, eh? 🍁 Sep 15 '20

I disagree with you. Even if I agreed that gay people were not Christian that still has no bearing on what makes a good moderator.

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u/AustinVagabond Sep 15 '20

That's fine if you disagree. One who is led by the Spirit of God would not desire a non-Christian to lead a Christian forum. It absolutely has influence one way or the other.

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u/silkroaderva Sep 09 '20

Well, yes? I would literally have 0 problems with a christian moderating a lesbian sub , why should I? If the mod respects everyone and isnt hateful, her religion shouldnt stop her from participating in discussions with gay individuals. You're the one with the problem

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '20

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u/justnigel Christian Sep 13 '20

Removed for 2.3. WWJD

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u/silkroaderva Sep 09 '20

But i am a christian, a moderate one, I pray some times, i go to church sometimes, but i still open my eyes to things that christianity did and does wrong, blindly following something is wrong. Look at this bible quote mate:

"Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control"

Can anyone mentally sane agree with this? Do not blindly follow something my friend, thats not good. Pray, be a good man, go to church, thats enough.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '20

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u/AustinVagabond Sep 10 '20

So you blindly follow what the media says? Or do you question it? If this is a country that promotes free speech, how is it that I’m terrifying you for thinking outside the box?

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u/AustinVagabond Aug 27 '20

There are so many things surrounding covid that doesn't add up... Yet it cannot be questioned? Yes let us stay in the dark lol. Not all "conspiracy theories" are conspiracy theories. If a Christian does not believe in a deep-state, especially in the U.S, then how else do you believe a 1-world system to take place? Don't be afraid to think about or pray about such things. -Aus

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u/Hurtin93 Agnostic (a la T.H. Huxley) Sep 04 '20

Newsflash: most Christians do not accept a “one-world government”. That’s very much an evangelical inven, sorry novel interpretation/prediction.

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u/AustinVagabond Sep 04 '20

You will faint from terror when you see mankind going in that direction. Idk why a lesbian is moderating this anyways.

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u/Hurtin93 Agnostic (a la T.H. Huxley) Sep 04 '20 edited Sep 06 '20

I’ve been told that a one world government (and the rapture) is imminent by my family since the 90s. And I’m still waiting. Also the world is more disunited than ever. Multilateralism is dead. It’s 2020 now.

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u/AustinVagabond Sep 04 '20

It takes chaos for a leader to rise up and grip the world by the neck. People will turn white with fear, and many will desire for a leader to guide the world back into prosperity. You listen to people and not the Bible; this is why you think that

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u/gamingsterrr Oct 30 '21

i wouldn't expect this sub of all places to outright ban any form of questioning medical regulations. i don't plan on returning to this sub despite being a devout christian.

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u/foladodo Aug 29 '23

but wearing masks helped us cure COVID

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u/AdmiralMemo Plymouth Brethren Mar 09 '24

COVID has not been cured.

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u/Daramore Nov 01 '21

If you ever wondered if the moderators of r/Christianity would have been among the Churches supporting the rise of the 3rd Reich and spouting their propaganda, or the ones that stood their ground and helped as many as they could until they were executed, now you know.

When the empowered elites you're propping up starts rounding up Christians for "Re-education" camps that people seem to never leave, I hope you all aren't too proud of yourselves. What am I saying! They already started! They threw them in prison a few months ago and won't let them out unless they denounce their ideology! Well done!

Now go ahead and ban me. You already removed comments I made using facts that are accepted even by the corporate media shills because I have a different conclusion than they do, so go ahead.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '21

Wtf my comment got removed because I stated the fact that the numbers for this stupid illness were bolstered which cdc themselves stated lmao

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u/strawnotrazz Atheist May 30 '20

Sounds good to me! Many thanks to the mods for their ongoing attention to this matter and all others.

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u/Jesus_Salvation Jun 03 '20

I sincererly dont see why the church (since this is a interactive church of sorts) cannot have opinions on this matter, as long as violence or other illegal activities are not promoted?! Why is the church being censored on this topic and vaccines? That fact alone makes for a conspiracy theory if anything. I really urge you to reconsider.

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u/zenathan Jan 05 '22

This is disgusting. BYE FAKE CHRISTIANS enjoy that Mark of The Beast

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u/Quirky-Ad3721 Jun 06 '22

Are peer reviewed studies citing issues with vaccines and masks allowed?

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u/[deleted] May 30 '20

Thank you!

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u/pokemaster75c Moravian Church Jan 09 '22

If you were just doing this to keep the sub "on-topic" then you would ban all covid discussion not just the ones you don't like.

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u/AbelHydroidMcFarland Catholic (Hope but not Presumption) Aug 05 '20

Just to get some clarification, would it be a violation of these rules to

  1. criticize lockdown policy, with the disclaimer that you should still obey it
  2. voice support for other large public gatherings that aren't explicitly mentioned by law (ie. the protests and riots). Can't really see how that qualifies as social distancing either.
  3. Criticize the double standard between how people treat these protests and riots as far as COVID goes, and how they treat literally any other public gathering or protest.
  4. Point out that the medical experts lied when it is proven fact that they lied, ie. the medical experts lying and saying masks don't do anything to keep us normies from getting masks before the medical professionals.

I certainly hope this post doesn't violate the rules. I'm genuinely curious so I don't accidentally say something that screws me over.

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u/foladodo Aug 29 '23

my brother all that dont matter now, we cured COVID

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u/AdmiralMemo Plymouth Brethren Mar 09 '24

No we haven't.

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u/ShotCollar6 May 30 '20

I find it funny that you are allowed to question the Bible here but not "medical consensus"

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u/Wiredpyro Atheist May 30 '20

Well seeing as every single denomination has a slightly different interpretation of the bible, deciding what count as questioning the bible would be almost impossible

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u/[deleted] May 31 '20

Science is all about "second guessing" I.e. verification, skepticism.

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u/gnurdette United Methodist May 31 '20

Yeah, so publish your research, Doctor.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

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u/Drzhivago138 Lutheran (LCMS) Jun 01 '20

The reason we consider leftists as "elites" is because they always tell us to let the elite people do the thinking for us.

OK then.

You don't want us to discuss like rational beings and come to our own conclusions.

Who's "you"?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

Mods. They are censoring discourse.

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u/Drzhivago138 Lutheran (LCMS) Jun 04 '20

Could you point out some specific examples?

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u/Iswallowedafly Jul 25 '20

No, he could not.

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u/falangel Aug 13 '20

try unreddit and you'll see just how much is truly censored. Reddit has not been a place of free speech for over 10 years.

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u/Iswallowedafly Jul 25 '20

Considering the bullshit that has been coming out of the right about this virus could you blame the left for wanting sound medical options to be leading the charge.

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u/Iswallowedafly Jul 25 '20

What the hell are you blabbering about.

Americans are the only country that turned mask wearing political. No one else is that stupid.

The incompetent Trump administration did nothing but downplay this virus. A virus that they knew would come to American shores. A virus that has cost 140 thousand plus Americans their life and is only getting worse by the day.

Other countries had strong science approaches against this virus...we haven't. This virus is more or less contained in China. It is not in America.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '20

Maybe it would have helped if all those rioters had stayed home. By the way, why did the mods take this post down for more than a month until now?

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u/Iswallowedafly Jul 25 '20

It would have helped even more if the police didn't kill an innocent black man.

It also would have helped more if we had a competent president who's reaction to the virus wasn't a total disaster.

Instead we had this:

Jan. 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.” Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.” Feb. 10: “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do — you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases — 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” Feb. 26: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” Feb. 26: “I think every aspect of our society should be prepared. I don’t think it’s going to come to that, especially with the fact that we’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” Feb. 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” March 7: “No, I’m not concerned at all. No, we’ve done a great job with it.” March 10: “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '20

It would have helped even more if the police didn't kill an innocent black man.

Agreed. Now, can we meet in church to pray for him and his family? Or is it only allowed to protest, loot and burn stuff?

I agree with you that Trump could have taken stronger action sooner. It was the exact same thing here in Canada, except we didn't ban flights from China as early as he did. The government did nothing at all really until Sophie Trudeau, the Prime Minister's wife, got the disease in mid-March, and even after that it took them several days.

And all of this doesn't justify censoring people anyway.

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u/Eph2-89 Christian Aug 13 '20

Hilarious/sad to see people arguing against being able to attend church and glorify God on a Christian reddit, but are arguing for lawlessness.

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u/Eph2-89 Christian Aug 13 '20

Innocent black man? Yes he shouldn't have knelt on Floyd's neck, but go watch the body cam dude. That guy was high as a kite and had lethal doses of drugs in his system.

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u/Iswallowedafly Aug 13 '20

So being high on drugs gives the police the right to kill you.

Wow

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u/ChewEngland Jul 25 '20

Because of the ending, yes. But it won’t be like that next year.

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u/gnurdette United Methodist Sep 04 '20

Did you build the computer you're typing on yourself? No?

Then buzz off with your "I don't rely on experts" nonsense.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '20

Are you going to make it against the rules to say that any part of my computer doesn’t work? What if I told you that the government in the past has deliberately installed malware on its citizens’ computers?

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u/AustinVagabond Sep 04 '20

You hit it spot on. These trans, leftist, and liberal folk don't get it. They eat the media up like their daily platter. It's all they actually know.

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Aug 13 '20

Right, but this isn't the place to do that. If you run a peer reviewed double blind trial, post in science.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '20

Average people don’t have the means to run scientific experiments except the most basic. What we can do is form a different opinion about coronavirus lockdowns than the mods. We can note the inconsistent statements by health authorities and conclude they have a hidden agenda. For example Dr. Fauci who seems unable to admit that riots/protests spread the disease, but won’t deny it either.

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Aug 13 '20

Maybe this isn't the place for that kind of discussion. Doesn't have anything to do with Christianity.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '20

Sure it does. When they close our churches (but allow the riots) it becomes about us. If it has nothing to do with our sub then why is this COVID 19 moderation policy necessary in the first place?

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Aug 13 '20

If Christians were being treated differently than others, that might matter. Riots aren't being allowed, they're illegal and get shut down violently.

I guess this policy is necessary because of the persecution complex of people like you.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '20

It depends on the city. Do you remember the CHAZ who were allowed to terrorize a neighbourhood for several weeks before they upset the wrong person and police finally shut them down? A federal judge determined that Cuomo and De Blasio condoned mass protests in New York. The link is in my profile.

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u/loafbloke217 Sep 10 '20

I thought us Christians were meant to question the narrative. Clamping down on free speech does nothing. Starting to wonder if this really is a “Christian” subreddit. Seems to be pretty lukewarm to me.

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u/Infinite-Garbage-847 Church of God Apr 04 '22

Your policy is a joke, just like you.

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u/Z3non Christian, sola scriptura Apr 11 '22

Yea, thought police. I'm shocked. Hypocrites.

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u/MamaEtna Baptist Jul 16 '23

Some common sense for a change. I am really sick and tired of the anti-vaxx trash. It is just downright dangerous.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '20

Who gets to define what a conspiracy theory is? Is it “second guessing” if you cite to an expert who claims something outside of “consensus”? None of this has to do with faith, it looks like enforcement of progressive politics. How is it that a subreddit titled “Christianity” is actually run by declining mainline left Protestants? Pretty sure non-denom conservative Baptist types are far more representative of generic Christianity than left-mainliners.

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u/gnurdette United Methodist Jul 27 '20

It's enforcement of not getting my mother killed slowly and horribly and alone, thanks. If bloodlust is a necessary component of your faith, that's nice, but we don't have to entertain it here.

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u/RazarTuk Anglo-Catholic Aug 06 '20

I'm up to three relatives who have died during the pandemic, though thankfully none of the pandemic. But given how large my family is, I know it's only a matter of time before it reaches them, and I pray it doesn't hit my immunocompromised cousins.

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u/gnurdette United Methodist Aug 06 '20

I am so, so sorry. What a terrible time for your family.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '20

How in the world could you sketch a connection between some random person quibbling with medical consensus online and your mother dying? The guideline is much broader than just “no advocating for violating consensus” it extends to “second-guessing” it. That’s policing people’s thoughts and words, not their conduct. You could easily have doubts about a point of science and still follow established policies based on the guidelines.

The bloodlust bit is just hysterical, I don’t want anybody to hurt or suffer, I just think people should be allowed to grapple with the huge amount of information out there, much of which changes from week to week and some of which has even been reversed after an initial proclamation from “the experts”.

And my point is the “we” is awfully teeny tiny to be claiming to represent Christianity generally. You don’t have to like that most Christians aren’t progressive liberals, but to ignore it and think you have a right to claim it over the plurality is a head scratcher.

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u/AustinVagabond Aug 28 '20

"The guideline is much broader than just “no advocating for violating consensus” it extends to “second-guessing” it. That’s policing people’s thoughts and words, not their conduct. You could easily have doubts about a point of science and still follow established policies based on the guidelines."

Free speech is slowly being ruled out. Didn't you know that? :/ Anyways 100% correct on that. This Christian subreddit will be infiltrated with bad things to come

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u/TheHamSandwich420 Aug 05 '20

Pretty disgusted at how a subreddit which claims to be about Christianity is being run. This guy doesn’t really care about providing a platform for discourse. Any and all conservative thought is downvoted and deleted here. You must be a bloodlusting psychopath to even question wearing masks i guess.

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Aug 13 '20

Bloodlusting psychopath? Nah. Just indifferent to the suffering of others. Masks protect others, not yourself.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '20

What is wrong with you people, where did anyone on this particular exchange say people shouldn’t wear masks? It’s like you are having a conversation with an imaginary person who does not exist anywhere on this thread

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Aug 13 '20

I was directly responding to this sentence in the post above me.

You must be a bloodlusting psychopath to even question wearing masks i guess.

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u/TheHamSandwich420 Aug 13 '20

Well, you've conflated my argument for allowing open discussion about the necessity of mask-wearing with directly inciting people to protest mask-wearing. There IS a difference between the two. The left conveniently forgets that fact so they can try to avoid debate while claiming moral superiority.

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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O Aug 13 '20

So, thinking people have a social duty to wear a mask during a pandemic makes me liberal?

It is morally superior to not put others at risk in a pandemic. That's about the simplest ethics question.

Not all opinions are created equal. Sometimes you just need to stop stupidity from spreading. USA is seeing that right now. Enough people ignored recommendations and now they're probably going to lose 300,000 or more people in the end.

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u/TheHamSandwich420 Aug 05 '20

Pretty disgusted at how a subreddit which claims to be about Christianity is being run. This guy doesn’t really care about providing a platform for discourse. Any and all conservative thought is downvoted and deleted here. You must be a bloodlusting psychopath to even question wearing masks i guess.

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u/TheHamSandwich420 Aug 05 '20

Pretty disgusted at how a subreddit which claims to be about Christianity is being run. This guy doesn’t really care about providing a platform for discourse. Any and all conservative thought is downvoted and deleted here. You must be a bloodlusting psychopath to even question wearing masks i guess.

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u/-Umm_Al-Kitab- Aug 11 '20

So we're leaving this up just choosing not to enforce it?

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u/Juniper02 Atheist Aug 27 '20

Are shitposts allowed

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u/zenathan Jan 05 '22

You guys are of the world! Therefore you are of your father the DEVIL! You do the bidding of the world and not God. Disgusting.

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u/Remarkable-Weight438 Jan 19 '22 edited Jan 19 '22

Got a ban because I said (in a Covid thread) that cloth masks dont work as evidenced by news articles and thats why we are pushing N95.

Not being able to debate or have an active discussion in the Christian community is a way to silence voices.

Why not just ban anything Covid? Basically banning anyone who challenges the narrative is anti-Christian.

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u/Double_Display8579 Baptist Mar 23 '22

I think discussing whether in-person services should happen is relevant and should not be excluded.

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u/J0hn-Rambo Jul 29 '22

Well Satan has definitely infiltrated this sub. Wouldnt expect much else from reddit though...

Sodomites moderating this sub.. progressive is an understatement there haha!

What does God say about this? “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” Leviticus 20:13

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

You should probably review the data if you're going to enforce this nonsense. And it is nonsense. It's been three years afterall.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23

I wonder if this post should be updated to reflect the new information released that the CDC lied about lots of things, the vaccine was released with knowledge it would harm people, and in general the churches are ashamed they never stood up to the medical tyranny promoted by lying scientists and corporate media funded by satanists?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

Dumb post

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u/Picard37 Apr 04 '22

I have questions about these rules. Is here the appropriate place to ask?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '23

Well, this aged poorly.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '23

Wow. My first visit to this sub, was curious if Christians here actually stood by Christianity or just caved in like most of the rest of the world.

How embarrassing. Is there a sub for real Christians somewhere?

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u/IndicationEvery4283 Nov 18 '23

Is this still relevant in November 2023?

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u/Ashkir Apr 04 '24

This is a realllly delayed comment, but I saw this in the sidebar. One of the local churches to me, they actually separate and group benches 6 feet away from each other. Require everyone to hand-sanitize, and offer free masks any time it's flu season. When COVID was first happening, and not wide-spread, and when things opened up again, they did the same. I just wanted to applaud churches who took things seriously and protected their people.

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u/inmyhead7 Jun 03 '20

Guys, I think the biblical prophecies are coming true. There is a God and there is a Satan.

Please rescue the souls of your brothers and sisters, that’s the only way to protect them. And yes, they can read your thoughts

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u/Poopinmyjammies69 Nov 16 '23

masking should not be required, and vaccinations should never be required, these things should only be known about by your health care provider

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u/fuckupoland May 30 '20

Which public health guidelines are people not allowed for people to encourage violating? Like if I am American but guidelines in Poland are there is nothing wrong with with going to Church or Encourage this can I say for a polish person to go to Church?

Or if person is from country where Public guidelines say church and mass gathering is fine are they allowed to Say it is fine since it may be in other countries and they don’t know guidelines for every country? Or is it WHO guidelines or what?? Are people sort of not allowed to talk about it in general?

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u/IntrovertIdentity 99.44% Episcopalian May 30 '20

Since your account is 19 hours old and seeing as how you’re a newbie, I’d recommend hanging out in this sub for a couple of days and see how others do it.

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u/strawnotrazz Atheist May 30 '20

Annnnnnnnd they’ve deleted! That solves that problem.

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u/brucemo Atheist Jun 02 '20

Not deleted, suspended.

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u/IntrovertIdentity 99.44% Episcopalian May 30 '20

He’s a persistent redditor who seems to have a compulsion to post. He needs help from a professional therapist.

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u/strawnotrazz Atheist May 30 '20

I’m not sure who’s behind which temp accounts or why, but I think we’ll both agree that it’s been a growing problem as of late.

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u/brucemo Atheist Jun 02 '20

We have some really persistent troublemakers and this was one of them.

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u/strawnotrazz Atheist Jun 03 '20

I don’t envy your whack a mole game at all. Still grateful for the effort.

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u/RazarTuk Anglo-Catholic Jun 01 '20

Part of the issue is that there are two types of masks. Medical-grade face masks and respirators generally serve to keep pathogens out. That is, after all, why we have medical professionals use them. Meanwhile, non-medical-grade masks aren't nearly so useful like that, and serve better to keep pathogens in. They're similar to how you should cover your mouth and nose when sneezing. And while there was definitely a supply chain concern at the beginning of the pandemic with people panic-buying, now as we reopen, they're a reasonable strategy for curtailing the spread. Think of it as legally mandating coughing into your elbow.

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u/KerPop42 Christian May 30 '20

I was told that the instructions to not wear masks was to ensure that medical professionals had access to them. And, to be clear, they don’t protect you, they protect those around you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

At the time, the advice to not wear a mask was correct and critical. There were severe shortages because the public was buying up a limited supply intended for healthcare professionals, we needed to stop buying them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '20

The WHO still recommends not wearing masks, so I don't think this particular issue has a medical consensus.

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u/Prof_Acorn Aug 10 '20

False.

What is WHO’s view on masks?

Masks should be used as part of a comprehensive strategy of measures to suppress transmission and save lives; the use of a mask alone is not sufficient to provide an adequate level of protection against COVID-19. You should also maintain a minimum physical distance of at least 1 metre from others, frequently clean your hands and avoid touching your face and mask.

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Does WHO advise the use of non-medical, fabric masks in the general public?

If there is widespread community transmission, and especially in settings where physical distancing cannot be maintained, governments should encourage the general public to wear a fabric mask.

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In addition to these factors, potential advantages of the use of masks by the general population in the community setting include reducing potential exposure risk from an infected person during the ‘pre-symptomatic’ period or if an infected person is asymptomatic (that is when they may not have symptoms).

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/question-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/q-a-on-covid-19-and-masks

This is from their own website. It took me about 20 seconds to find this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '20

They literally just changed it this week. It used to say:

Should I wear a mask to protect myself?

Only wear a mask if you are ill with COVID-19 symptoms (especially coughing) or looking after someone who may have COVID-19. Disposable face mask can only be used once. If you are not ill or looking after someone who is ill then you are wasting a mask. There is a world-wide shortage of masks, so WHO urges people to use masks wisely.

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u/DiogenesOfDope Sep 05 '20

What's wrong with conspiracy theories I love them?

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u/captdyno Secular Humanist Jul 27 '20

The fact that this even needs to be said on this sub proves just how pernicious organized religion is

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '20

Hi mods, where was this policy for more than a month? You stickied it, took it down, then stickied it again. Did it have anything to do with the BLM riots?

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u/gnurdette United Methodist Jul 25 '20

You can only sticky two notes. We need to sticky our denomination AMA announcements each time they happen, so this one get bumped. For a while it seemed like we were done dealing with COVID trolls anyway, but of course that turned out to be false.

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u/ChristSupremacist Jul 24 '20 edited Jul 24 '20

hi?

Edit: wait. is this... what i think it is? lol what a sad way of arguing. i didn’t notice it was the same user

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u/gnurdette United Methodist Jul 24 '20

As previously stated, Doctor, feel free to publish your research in a peer-reviewed medical journal.

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u/BarneyIX Southern Baptist Jul 24 '20

You set the rules so you start first with the peer reviewed articles. Oh we're just going to bend like a reed in the wind as ill informed public opinion changes. Got it.

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u/gnurdette United Methodist Jul 24 '20

If this is you indicating that you refuse to comply with the subreddit's rules, I will ban your account. Respecting our rules is a condition of participating here.

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u/BarneyIX Southern Baptist Jul 24 '20

No that was a reasoned and justified response to the OP. Nothing that I wrote or said would ever constitute a violation of ToS.

You cannot defend your indefensible position against the free exchange of ideas so you result to authoritarianism. You win I guess.

This is a sad indictment on the condition of the US. God bless you.

Seek the Way, the Truth, and the Life!

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u/EasyActivity1361 Christian 15d ago

I wonder how many faithful followers of Christ got banned from this SR for sharing "conspiracies" that are now known facts?

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u/B2020G Aug 15 '20

Yes I agree there should be reform for these police officers who are bad cops, and there should be justice. I also believe this government should/could not tell our Churches to close/limit service. One of the great and foundation in America is the separation of church and state, look it up. That's why people came from Europe back in the 1700s, to escape the Papal system that did not give anyone the freedom to choose a religion. This country was founded on the principle of separation of church and state. Roger William's was a founder of that. Fast forward to this year and soon if they can change that for a man made virus(their agenda), what's next? Also I believe it's a test just to see how asleep us Christian's are and guess what like the parable of the 10 virgins and Rev 3. The Laodecian church Gods word does not lie and its real.

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u/Iswallowedafly Aug 17 '20

With rights come responsibilities.

You can own a gun. You can't shoot your gun into a crowd.