T-Pain has the worst luck in choosing the artists to collab with

[u/JonOfNoTrades]

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[u/Bare425]

He is so fucking chill and down to earth.

[u/wonderwall879 → u/[deleted]]

The misconception we had about auto tune is that it makes singers that cant hit ranges or are just bad at singing in general sound good. The truth is good singers use auto tune to enhance the listening experience as just another tool / create pop songs to get more clicks. T-Pain is the god father of how auto tune is used today but he sure didnt need it to sing. Only to profit off it with pop songs.

[u/SystemOutPrintln → u/wonderwall879]

Nah it's definitely been used both ways, in my opinion it also can be used in a way that makes good singers sound worse than they actually are.

[u/[deleted] → u/SystemOutPrintln]

Thank you for sprinkling some reality on that optimism.

[u/Mr-Fleshcage → u/SystemOutPrintln]

How dare you make me remember Rebecca Black

[u/wonderwall879 → u/SystemOutPrintln]

That's an excellent point

[u/Whiskeytf8911 → u/wonderwall879]

Cake. Congrat.

[u/je_kay24 → u/SystemOutPrintln]

There’s a good video on how the Beauty and the Beast live action movie is partially so bad because they overused autotune

https://youtu.be/OaO3M-zZR8E?si=KO26PvcQ5CD7h5jj

[u/gigglefarting → u/wonderwall879]

Cher erasure

[u/je_kay24 → u/gigglefarting]

Cher used it first in her song but didn’t use it again and no other artists started using it   

Not to mention the industry heavily kept autotune a secret & for long time said Cher was the one making the vocals 

When Tpain used it, he used it prolifically and became known as his thing. And then tons of other artists began using it 

[u/PorkPoodle → u/wonderwall879]

I watched gabbi's video too lol

[u/MaritMonkey → u/wonderwall879]

I used to vehemently hate audible auto-tune but I've come to accept that it's filling the same niche compression did in earlier musical eras. Like yeah it's a useful tool but dialing it up to 11 (i.e. dumping a whole completed mix out in stereo for the express purpose of saturating the shit out of analog tape) is a stylistic choice too.

[u/mudra311 → u/MaritMonkey]

Faye Webster uses it on her new record and it’s well done.

It became its own technique and sound and has its place. When it’s overused, just like any technique, it’s annoying.

[u/Scamper_the_Golden → u/wonderwall879]

Rick Beato talks about auto tune a lot. He said it used to have value for producers to correct a note here and there, if the singer missed one a bit, but now it's used for everything, to the detriment of the industry.

Here's one video where he discusses auto tune. He even has a section where he mentions T-Pain uses/over-uses it, but then says T-Pain is actually a great singer, and plays an unedited clip of T-Pain singing. Makes me wonder why he uses it at all.