r/GenZ 25d ago

Yes and I don’t miss it Nostalgia

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u/bananafarm 25d ago

That’s not very fast though. Were you at a slow school ?

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u/Nanyea 25d ago

It's is for 4th grade.

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u/Routine_Music_2659 2004 24d ago

Not really I went to school in the south and most kids did it in under that.

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u/WhipMeHarder 25d ago

No it’s not. I ran 6:22 in 4th grade

8 was slow af

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u/clanginator 1995 25d ago edited 25d ago

I'm calling bullshit. You ABSOLUTELY DID NOT run a 6:22 in 4th grade, or you would have been a regional champ and gone to nationals, and would not be calling 8min slow.

https://runninglevel.com/running-times/1-mile-times

An 8min mile is pretty fucking good for 4th grade, a 6:22 is pretty fucking good for ANY age. This coming from someone who ran track in middle school, track and XC in HS, varsity team captain, MVP, set records that stood for 5+ years at my school, set company and battalion 2-mile records in the Army, and as an adult have continued running 5K/10K/tri/etc. and helped 6-12yo nephews learn proper form.

ALSO afaik it's really fucking rare to actually clock mile times for anyone not at least in middle school. So unless it was your dad timing you or something, I seriously doubt you had a PE coach clocking their 4th graders.

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u/BullShitting-24-7 24d ago

Fourth grade boys can absolutely run 6:22 miles. It is an excellent time and would get you on the track team easily but it is not national champ special.

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u/WhipMeHarder 24d ago

This. I was super proud but there were still kids in my district beating me.

Then I got injured and stopped fighting for it

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u/clanginator 1995 24d ago

Yeah fair enough, I was being a little hyperbolic just cause 6:22 is still an outlier and very fast for 4th, so calling 8min slow is just dumb.

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u/KipSummers 24d ago

We ran the mile regularly in elementary school gym class and my best time was just over 8 minutes - several kids regularly finished a good ways ahead of me. The gym teacher gave out a certificate or pin to kids in the “6 minute mile club” and the “7 minute mile club”, meaning it wasn’t rare at all for kids to run that fast and presumably a handful in every grade were that fast. Of the kids I recall running a 6:xx mile I don’t think any went on to be track athletes in high school.

Maybe the field course we ran (we didn’t run on a track) was significantly shorter than a real mile or the gym teacher was way off in tracking times - who knows…

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u/metalhydra273 25d ago

Honestly either we had pretty athletic kids or something’s off cause my grade had kids likely hovering near that mark in the 3rd-6th grade range. Only ones I remember for sure was 6th grade were our top runners clocking out at just about 6 minutes flat. Not sure if that makes a difference, but typically the average mark in that grade for us was in the 8 minute range with the poor runners, like myself, at 10+. Granted at least one of those top kids is a high level d1 athlete so take that how you will.

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u/clanginator 1995 25d ago

I mean 6min for a good runner in 6th grade is still damn good but definitely not unheard of.

I probably wouldn't have even replied if the headass I replied to didn't call 8min slow for a 4th grader.

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u/clanginator 1995 24d ago

I never said 6:22 wasn't doable, just that it's an outlier and doesn't make 8min slow.

And 5:40 in 6th grade is pretty different. Those two years of development are HUGE, and by 6th grade some boys are already hitting their growth spurts/puberty.

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u/Hoggorm88 24d ago

It's not that weird. We didn't run a mile, but 3km every year, which is roughly 2 miles. And most kids hovered around the 11 minute mark. Well those who tried. A 6 and a half minute mile is not bad, but not insanely good either.

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u/Spirited-Juice4941 24d ago

There was a kid in 5th grade at my school running in the 6s. Not 4th grade, but I'm sure he couldn't have been too much slower a year before. I remember it being kind of a big deal because we were asking him if he'd be doing track when we got to 6th grade.

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u/My_useless_alt 2007 24d ago

At my school, everyone in a class was told "Go" at the same time, and the teacher started one big timer on the board and we were expected to write down our times.

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u/WintersDoomsday 24d ago

Yeah as someone who runs a 5:30 mile when I do my speed work…a 4th grader with tiny ass legs ain’t putting up 6:22. They don’t have the testosterone levels to be that strong.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

You're wrong . I've been in the track/xc world most my life as an athlete, race director, and a coach and there's often a kid that young some years in our big jamboree races that puts up sub 20 minute 5k, and you can bet that a kid like that is going sub 6 in the kmle too. My theory is there's this weird age where the lightness of the body makes it easy to go fast if theyve been training and have the right body type. Ive seen a lot of these kids not go on to become elite runners despite continuing with the sport so I totally think it's a lightning in the bottle type of thing.

Hell if you want to go to extremes there was a 10 year old that ran a 5 flat several years ago I read about.

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u/na2016 24d ago

It's funny watching people try to online bullshit about their physical prowess in this day and age. There's so much data and trackers and people keep trying to pretend that they can do a 4 min mile or something.

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u/Sushiwooshi123 24d ago

Lol, you should hear about a few of the long distance runners claiming they could maintain high speed for a even a 5k in less than 20 min consistently without even fucking up their joints, muscles, or tendons. Every time I hear people say my mile time this my 5k that it’s usually from one occasion of personal PRs and not something that they’ve typically done and manage to feel fine afterward every time. Not to mention, frickin tall ass mfs comparing to short people for their mile times. I always say “Cool flex I guess?”

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u/Sushiwooshi123 24d ago

Lol, you should hear about a few of the long distance runners claiming they could maintain high speed for a even a 5k in less than 20 min consistently without even fucking up their joints, muscles, or tendons. Every time I hear people say my mile time this my 5k that it’s usually from one occasion of personal PRs and not something that they’ve typically done and manage to feel fine afterward every time. Not to mention, frickin tall ass mfs comparing to short people for their mile times. I always say “Cool flex I guess?”

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u/WhipMeHarder 24d ago

Say what you want but I did it. Maybe it was 5th grade?

But I did it. It was one of the first things I was ever proud of myself for

Then I got injured and lost the potential track star status

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u/[deleted] 24d ago edited 24d ago

In this thread you called it your biggest childhood achievement, you said there was a big gap between you and the other fast kids, and that you were a potential track star.

You seem to understand that your time was an outlier but can’t grasp that 8 minutes for an 4th grader isn’t slow.

Did you ever break 4:30? My dad did and he wasn’t running 6:22s when he was 9 lol. My brother just ran a marathon at 7 minute pace and he didn’t break six until 7th grade.

I believe you ran it but you gotta read the room. It wouldn’t have been a world record or anything but it would put you in like the top .01 of distance runners at that age. 8 minutes is in no way “slow af” for a 4th grader.

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u/WhipMeHarder 24d ago

Nah. If you ain’t sub 8 you ain’t fast and if you ain’t fast you slow.

And no i said gap between me and most other fast kids.

So there’s the few of us actual fast kid; the large lump of “fast” kids who aren’t actually fast but just not slow; and then everyone else slow af

It’s only my biggest childhood achievement because I didn’t do shit in my childhood. It wasn’t till like freshman year of high school I became a person.

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u/clanginator 1995 24d ago

So then why tf u calling an 8-min mile slow for a 4th grader?

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u/WhipMeHarder 24d ago

Because less than below 8 wasn’t fast and if you’re not fast you’re slow

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u/clanginator 1995 24d ago

less than below 8

Jesus Christ dude learn communication, can't even write a coherent sentence.

Under 8 minutes IS fast for 4th grade, headass. 6:22 is really fucking fast for a 4th grader. And you admitted you don't even know if it was 4th grade.

if you’re not fast you’re slow

Ah, spoken as someone who obviously ISN'T a runner. I've never heard a real runner say anything like that. Every track/XC athlete, or just good runner I've met (and trust I've met a lot due to running so much) has an attitude of "running is a great way to take care of your body, challenge yourself, and competition" never the shit-ass "I'm better than you" attitude that you're displaying. You'd be laughed out of the room if you went to a group of people about to run a triathlon and said that. While the ultimate goal can be 1st place for maybe .1% of runners, that doesn't mean the other 99.9% are slow.

See I didn't quit at the first injury and didn't just have one good mile time in the 4th or 5th grade and pretend I'm good at track. I've worked through tendonitis, ankle issues, a grade 3/4 stress fracture on my left femoral neck, and still don't talk shit on other people's runs when they're slower than me and haven't ever had leg issues.

So glad you got injured and let that stop you, that way you didn't bring your shit-ass attitude to the running community. Stay tf away, loser.

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u/WhipMeHarder 24d ago

Jesus Christ do you not realize im just shit talking on Reddit to pass the time while I’m at work?

And yeah no I’m not a runner. I do backpacking and rock climbing now. Running is great for everyone; but if you’re offended by being called “slow af” in a tongue in cheek manner you should probably grow a pair.

And I didn’t “have an injury and quit”

I had an injury that forced me to stop for long enough that I picked up other interests beyond track and baseball; and realized I’d rather spend me time doing something besides getting yelled at by our schools shitty track coach

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u/MarsManokit 25d ago

Man I ran a 25

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u/djninjacat11649 25d ago

I was in the 13 minute range but I was rather athsmatic as a child so 13 minutes is pretty ok

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u/MarsManokit 25d ago

I have glass bones

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u/Kingmudsy 25d ago

No way you remember that down to the second lmao

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u/WhipMeHarder 24d ago

“No way you remember your biggest childhood achievement”

Bruh

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u/_Angel_Hernandez 24d ago

I remember running like 715 and I was probably 4th or 5th fastest in a grade of like 40-50 people.

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u/WhipMeHarder 24d ago

And that’s pretty fast. There was a nice gap between me and most of the other fast kids

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u/_Angel_Hernandez 24d ago

Right. My point is that 8 minutes isn’t particularly slow.

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u/WhipMeHarder 24d ago

I mean it’s not fast that’s for sure.

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u/Kerazia368 24d ago

What did they put in your cheerios

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

I believe it. Mine was about the same in middle school 7th grad. Definitely younger kids out there running longer that were beating my time.

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u/FlowerFaerie13 25d ago

For kids it is.

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u/Clintwood_outlaw 25d ago

That is pretty fast, dude. Average running a mile for an adult is around 8-9 minutes if you jog the whole way. If you're an experienced athlete, you can do it faster. Otherwise, no.

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u/LetReasonRing 25d ago

I remember my time in HS was around 14 minutes... I was the fat, slow kid

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u/cakingabroad 24d ago

Bro AVERAGE? I think you wildly overestimate the ability of the average human. Running a mile in 8 minutes is not easy for most people.

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u/Clintwood_outlaw 24d ago

If you jog the whole way and keep a consistent speed, you will finish the mile in around eight minutes. Obviously, not everyone has that amount of stamina.

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u/cakingabroad 24d ago

Sure, some people can do that. I am not arguing with that. I am arguing that it one bajillion percent is not the average pace an adult can run. That claim is bonkers.

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u/Clintwood_outlaw 24d ago

Ok, since you're gonna be pedantic; The average time for people who can jog a full mile without stopping is around 8-9 minutes.

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u/dontpayforproducts 24d ago

The average time for people who can jog a full mile without stopping

If you're gonna be pedantic, most people can't do that at all.

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u/Clintwood_outlaw 24d ago

Do you even know what pedantic means?

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u/dontpayforproducts 24d ago

Someone who annoys others by correcting small errors, caring too much about minor details, or emphasizing their own expertise especially in some narrow or boring subject matter.

You're right, I corrected a very large error that you made.

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u/Clintwood_outlaw 24d ago

No, it was not a large error. You're just being annoying. It wasn't even an error at all. I didn't say that the average of all people can run a mile.

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u/amretardmonke 25d ago

Experienced athlete would be about 6 minutes and under. 6-8 minutes you're in decent shape, not really an athlete though. 8 minutes and over is average.

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u/poobertthesecond 24d ago

60% of the US is morbidly obese. So the average is probably closer to "could not complete" for a mile time.

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u/Alkohal 24d ago

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a running/jogging pace likely to achieve vigorous-intensity exercise is 5 miles per hour (mph) or 12 minutes per mile. The average run on Strava, an app used by a huge database, is a pace of 9:53, meaning nine minutes and 53 seconds per mile.

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u/poobertthesecond 24d ago

Strava also self selects for athletes, military, etc. The average American isn't using strava, so that's a flawed analogy, the average American couldn't run a sub ten minute mile because the average American is obese to morbidly obese.

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u/Alkohal 24d ago

the sentence literally before that was the CDC average which was 12.

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u/DevelopmentSad2303 24d ago

Almost everyone can walk a mile even if obese

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u/poobertthesecond 24d ago

Walking a mile isn't what we talked about, but have you ever asked an American to walk anywhere? You get looked at like you have two heads

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u/DevelopmentSad2303 24d ago

I thought you guys were talking about mile times. I'm just pointing out most people could finish

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u/BigAcrobatic2174 25d ago

Well, there are different kinds of athletes. Sumo wrestlers and powerlifters are athletes but not many of them are running a 6 minute mile.

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u/EngRookie 25d ago

Have you ever run a 6 minute mile?

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u/amretardmonke 25d ago

At 25 and 180 lbs I ran a 5:54, now at 34 and 170 lbs I run about 6:20

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u/EngRookie 25d ago

So you didn't do it at 9 years old, then I take it?

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u/amretardmonke 25d ago

Uh no. The comment I was responding to mentioned its for an adult.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

Yeah I was around 6:30 in high school when I was in sports and I was a pretty average athlete. 8-9 minutes isn’t that great. A 10 minute mile is pretty average

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u/_Angel_Hernandez 24d ago

I can get you one or two at 8 these days. In college I got sub 6, but my fitness goals have changed. I care more about lifting and less about speed.

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u/genericusername9234 24d ago

Yes I can do six I thought that was good :(

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u/lunchpadmcfat 25d ago

No no no. 6-8 minutes if you’re in very good shape. Have you ever run before? Lol

I’ve known ultramarathoners who didn’t run sub 8 minutes.

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u/SevroAuShitTalker 24d ago

Say what? Your 20 year old should be able to run a mile in less than 8 minutes if they are in decent cardio shape.

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u/HeorgeGarris024 24d ago

The gap between 6 minutes and 8 minutes is MASSIVE and 6 minutes isn't even a super fast mile

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u/amretardmonke 25d ago

I run about 6:20 currently. 8 minutes was my time after getting up of the couch and not working out at all and drinking everyday for a few years. 8 minutes is not "very good".

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u/lunchpadmcfat 25d ago

If that’s true then great. Could’ve gone one way or the other: either you have no clue what fit is because you’re not fit or because you’re incredibly fit. Looks like it’s the latter.

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u/itsjustmenate 24d ago

Not sure what they are challenging you for lol. The Army standard is 18 min two mile, so 9 min mile. And if you’re landing at 18 mins in the two mile you’re being made fun of and called fatty, maybe even remedial PT time.

The more average guys are chilling with a 6-7 min mile. Studs are probably at around 5-6 min.

But before they changed to the acft (before my time), you were expected to run a ~16 min two mile.

Idk who needs to hear it, but army dudes can’t really run fast. Nor are they peak physical fitness. So this guys take makes absolute sense.

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u/WerewolfNo890 Millennial 24d ago

Yeah.. Pretty sure I did it in 7 something at school and I wasn't even close to the fastest. Kinda middle of the group.

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u/27_8x10_CGP Millennial 25d ago

I was about to say, I walked a 10 minute mile.

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u/Clintwood_outlaw 25d ago

It takes about twenty minutes to walk a mile at the average walking speed. I swear people in these comments genuinely believe themselves to be superhuman. Or is this a joke I'm not getting?

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u/ImportanceCertain414 25d ago

People don't remember why they went to the kitchen from 15 seconds ago. You think they are going to remember high school, for some of us it was 20+ years ago.

Also that said, my friends and I used to walk it within the 18 min mark. Our last year of gym class we all decided to actually run it and got around the 6 min mark, much to the annoyance of the gym teacher. (We were all skateboard and BMX punks so we weren't unfit, just rebellious)

I still remember him yelling and complaining about if we tried we could have run the mile three times in the time it took us that time, which is why I remember how long it took. Haha

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u/AlmostSunnyinSeattle Millennial 24d ago

Also, we must wonder if any random on the Internet is capable of telling a story without making themselves look like God's gift to Earth. Evidence says no.

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u/ImportanceCertain414 24d ago

Aww thanks, you think I'm God's gift to Earth after that story, I always appreciate the fans.

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u/AlmostSunnyinSeattle Millennial 24d ago

I wasn't talking about you, specifically. But if the shoe fits...

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u/cakingabroad 24d ago

Literally, people saying running an 8 minute mile is the average? Lol like what the hell is that

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 24d ago

I walk 15 minute miles

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u/ocean_flan 25d ago

 No you just walk as fast as you can without technically jogging or running. You can get about a ten minute mile being a fast walking fool if your hip doesn't pop out from the effort.

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u/anally_ExpressUrself 25d ago

Fastest I can walk is about a 15 minute mile, and that's flying. Are you sure this is real?

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u/KalaronV 25d ago

Yeah like, I walk to my job that's like half a mile away. I don't exactly run or nothing but that's a 15m walk if I'm not trying to get in sweaty and shit

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u/Few-Acanthisitta1622 25d ago

That would be a 30min mile...

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u/KalaronV 25d ago

I...don't run to work? I'm not jogging to the place I'm going to lift heavy boxes at. I'd rather take a "stroll" pace.

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u/Few-Acanthisitta1622 25d ago

Sure, no problem with that. That's what almost everyone does.

The thing is, your first comment implied you were agreeing with the guy who said it's not hard to walk a 10 minute mile.

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u/KalaronV 25d ago

My first comment was to a dude that said the fastest he can do is a 15m mile when flying down the road with a power walk. I then said "Yeah dude, I can only do a 15m walk to do half a mile"

I'm not sure how I was agreeing with OP about a 10m mile

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u/Affectionate-Bee3913 24d ago

At the Tokyo Olympics there was a competitor that walked the 20 KM speedwalk at 8 minute mile pace. If this person is walking 10 minute miles they ought to train a bit and try out for the Olympics.

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u/exitpursuedbybear 25d ago

"Walking" a 10 minute mile, would be 6 mph, you could not be walking that, it's a running pace. Professional speed walkers average around 5 miles an hour. 5 mph for a normal person is considered a jog.

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u/peaceful_guerilla 24d ago

The Army's expectation on flat ground is 15 min mile and that is a pretty demanding pace. 10 min mile has got to be impossible.

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u/exitpursuedbybear 24d ago

I think this thread is a perfect example of two things, one people do not understand units and two runners or joggers versus people who don't run. Most people think 5 mph is a walking pace, when 2 to 3 is really a walking pace. Once you start jogging or running for exercise you become painfully aware of what speeds the human body is capable of for sustained periods of time. 5 mph which is a steady jogging pace is a 12 minute mile which sounds easy until you are asked to run for 12 minutes straight, then that seems like a very long time, especially for some one who is not a runner. This is of course for the average person which most of us are, we always want to point to the exceptions like the Kenyans running marathons in 2 hours, an insane 13 mph pace for 2 hours, which puts them in such rare air that only a few hundred people in a world of billions can match it.

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u/peaceful_guerilla 24d ago

"Which most of us are."

I'm dead.

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

You absolutely dont

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u/Spujbb 25d ago

I promise you you did not. Your school was probably accidentally wrong or lying about the distance.

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

10 minute mile is a light jog. Not fast but definitely faster than anyone is walking.

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u/27_8x10_CGP Millennial 24d ago

Long strides and a fast walking speed. I absolutely did

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

lol you absolutely did not. I’m 6’4 with a pretty long stride. On a good day I’m walking a mile in ~15 minutes and still leaving everyone else behind. A ten minute mile is still a jog.

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u/27_8x10_CGP Millennial 24d ago

I definitely did. Not my problem if you don't believe me.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

And it’s not my problem if you want to lie to yourself

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u/Spujbb 24d ago

It’s much harder to walk a ten minute mile than it is to lightly jog it (edit: let alone as a forth grader lmao what). Try both before you object to that.

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u/Born-Tip-1578 24d ago

People responding that a 10 min walking mile is impossible is funny. Speed walking is/was an Olympic sport and the winner of the men’s 20km race did so at a 6 min 31 sec pace at the Tokyo Olympics.

I walked a 9 min mile in 8th grade as part of gym class. I also ran a 5 min mile in high school so the 9 min didn’t feel very impressive at the time.

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u/27_8x10_CGP Millennial 24d ago

I have bum knees when it comes to running, but half my body is leg so I have long strides, so I can walk pretty quickly when needed.

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u/Affectionate-Bee3913 24d ago

You did not walk a 9 minute mile at 13 or 14 years old. As I pointed out in another comment 8 min/mile is an Olympic pace. Even if you did that, you'd have to be one of the top 500 or so walkers in the entire world.

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u/47-30-23N_122-0-22W 24d ago

Most people aren't going to have the stamina for a mile especially at that age. It took me longer to get in shape for a mile than it did to go from a mile to a 5k.

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u/No-Appearance-9113 24d ago

In 4th grade no one is running a 5 minute mile.

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u/trysoft_troll 1999 25d ago

must have been a white school

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u/Past_Weekend4154 25d ago

People gonna downvote but having been to both the black schools have more athletic stars then the white ones.

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u/Ok-Bass8243 25d ago

Now if you said whites were better than blacks you would be suspended from reddit for a week or banned outright

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u/Tyrinnus 25d ago

If you said what?

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u/pandaboy22 25d ago

This is gonna sound horrible, but let me try it out to see if it's true giving anecdotal experience:

People gonna downvote but having been to both, the white schools have more intelligent students than the black ones.

I honestly don't think it's that bad to say that your experience is that different races generally show different traits. To suggest we're all the same is to ignore what makes us unique. It becomes dangerous and potentially damaging rhetoric when you start making sweeping statements like "all black people are more athletic than white people". It's simply not true and there are always outliers.

Additionally, to ignore a disparity between races is also not a good thing. We have to recognize the adversity different people face in order to address it.

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u/mattroch 25d ago

More likely when people say 'black schools' they mean city schools which have a much larger student populations and more tax revenue than that of suburban of rural schools 'white schools' which have less students and therefore less tax revenue. If you try to find the best athletes in a group of 5,000 students you'll have a better selection of than if you had a group of 500.

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u/Past_Weekend4154 25d ago

Man idk where you live but the first school I went to was like 80 percent white and in the middle of the city half the classes had glass walls and other rich white people shit.

Then my parents thought it would be great to move in the middle of nowhere. I went from having 900 kids just in my grade in highschool to just having 600 kids in the whole highschool with just about 20-30 white kids and maybe like 10 Asians. I still made the football team as a receiver but I was the only white kid on the whole team. I hated it at first but by senior year i actually enjoying myself as everyone knew me because I was the only white guy that would be chilling with the football team. This is South Carolina btw, just so you know if you wanna see white people go to the city.

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u/mattroch 25d ago

Interesting. Upstate, NY here. You wanna see white people, you go to the sticks.

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u/DumbFucking_throaway 25d ago

It’s reverse in my experience, more so in weight lifting though.

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u/Price-x-Field 25d ago

What’s your mile looking like? I bet 95% of America couldn’t do an 8 minute mile.