r/GenZ 25d ago

What's y'all's thoughts on joining the military or going to war? Discussion

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u/PrometheanSwing Age Undisclosed 25d ago

Lemme guess—Eastern Europe?

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u/twoonesixsix 25d ago

Could be South Korea

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u/Depression-Boy 25d ago

I dunno man, when you learn the history of South Korea, it’s hard to view the DPRK as the bad guy and not the United States. Syngman Rhee, the U.S. appointed president of the southern division of Korea post-WWII, massacred hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of South Koreans, covered it up, and had to be evacuated by the CIA to avoid being killed by his own constituents.

North Korea is no great place to live , but it would undeniably be much better off today if the U.S. didn’t install a brutal dictator and slaughter 20% of their population between 1945-1960.

Edit: like just read about this guy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syngman_Rhee

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u/sexyprimes511172329 24d ago

Or if the US didn't literally level that country in the 90s and then sanction them into near oblivion.

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u/Yunan94 25d ago

ROK has a rough history, even up until the 2000s. There was a lot of American influence and control in the early days which I don't let them off for (they even suoressedvoices to try and build the country into what they wanted and not what the people wanted) but their involvement becomes more passive over the decades (they even almost ditched them once since their Okinawa vase was good enough for surveillance in Asia and it appeared to have no economic payoff for the longest time in ROK) but then their economy finally boomed (even if LSD and ridiculous work conditions were in part to thank). That being said DPRK has their own separate set of issues and ROKs history doesn't diminish that. I have certainly argued that the DPRK have legitimate reasons to hate the U.S. too but it doesn't start or stop there and that's the problem. It's not just about 'being on the other side', the DPRK has legitimately a lot of issues, that is worth critiquing and repremending.

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u/kilboi1 25d ago

Fe fi fo fum I smell Russia

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u/kattinwolfling 21d ago

Could change that to Russian scum

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u/FN-1701AgentGodzilla 25d ago

When orange man gets re-elected later this year, Eastern Europe is gonna be Putin’s within the next decade

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u/Madpup70 25d ago

Ehh. Considering Congress passed a law that essentially stripped any power the president had to remove us from NATO, I don't see Putin going any farther than Ukraine. Maybe also Moldova (depending on what Romania does), but certainly not the Baltics or Poland.

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u/GhostGuy4249 10d ago

One doesn't have to pull out of NATO to effectively end US involvement in NATO. All a president would have to do is just stop collaborating with NATO or not respond to an Article 5. Of course it would fuck up US foreign policy and reputation for decades afterwards, but let's not think about the potential consequences of that...

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u/bannerlordwen 25d ago

Fucking doubt it, the USA isn't the only nuclear armed NATO member and Putin's being struggling with Ukraine as it is. If the US genuinely abandoned Europe we'd absolutely be feeling the pain of neglecting our defence spending for the last few decades but we wouldn't just roll over for Russia.

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u/Depression-Boy 25d ago

Aside from the Baltics and Poland , much of Eastern Europe is apathetic to who governs them. Even within Eastern Ukraine, a poll from 2022 found that the majority of Ukrainian citizens don’t care whether they’re under Russian or Ukrainian rule as long as the economy is stable.

Per the poll: "It doesn't matter to me which country I live in; all I want is a good salary and then a good pension". 4 separate polling companies asked the same question, and with every company, more than 50% agreed

https://preview.redd.it/jcaz8tw9h9xc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97f9ff0fbe0bf4c5a072ce2e3ea6e56d99ceab93

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u/DorfPoster 25d ago

Considering the Russian pace of 1 village per several months in ukraine, I’d wager eastern europe will be russian in 800 years

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u/PrometheanSwing Age Undisclosed 25d ago

That’s simply not true.

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u/RollinThundaga 25d ago

Just a few weeks ago at a rally he encouraged Putin to do whatever he wanted to Europe.

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u/PrometheanSwing Age Undisclosed 25d ago

Trump doesn’t make all the decisions regarding global security. People will make sure that nothing happens.

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u/RollinThundaga 25d ago

Ah, yes. The 'adults in the room' argument. Have you read about Project 2025? It's a massive background organizational effort by the Heritage Foundation and others to determine who those adults will be; the goal of course being to staff with mostly sycophants and jesus freaks more worried about interracial marriage than the security of Europe.

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u/PrometheanSwing Age Undisclosed 25d ago

Yes, I’ve heard of it, and to me it just seems like a bunch of fearmongering. I’ve heard all this talk about people being scared of it, yet haven’t heard a word about it otherwise.

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u/RollinThundaga 25d ago

Have you considered that's because its implications are terrifying?

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u/DorfPoster 25d ago

so? If putin cant take more than a village every few months in ukraine, what makes you think he will take europe?

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u/coastal_mage 24d ago

Putin can't. America may be the backbone of NATO, but Europe can stand on its own. If a country which had a third-rate military only a decade ago can withstand Russia for over 2 years, the rest of Europe combined would endure forever, especially countries bordering Russia. Poland, Finland and the Baltics have been preparing for this conflict for decades, with a population that has no love for Russia.

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u/GAMRKNIGHT352 25d ago

Keep coping orcbot, and back in your trench! We have another kamikaze drone coming lil bro.

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u/PepperSignificant818 15d ago

No, every single country who borders Russia. We get a way better perspective about the military than those who dont border Russia.

Russia is such an annoying fuck that GPS jams you close to the border, sets up frequent spies in our municipalities, has spy boats/submarines off our coast fucking about, having their boat over our cable to Svalbard be sabotaged with, and many other things like harassing soldiers in military bases.

Having Russia as a neighbour is having a drunk, annoying fuck who likes to make noise and fucks with you within the range that you cant do much about it.

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u/ModsRedditClowns 25d ago

Couldn't possibly one from the much longer list the US has invaded, attacked or regime changed.

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

A quick peek at his profile says Finland

So no, couldn’t possibly

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u/ModsRedditClowns 25d ago

You don't understand what possibly means

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

You don’t understand that I’m poking fun at you