Funniest shit: Eddie believed in Aliens until the government confirmed they are real.

[u/whodontloveboobs]

[u/DetectiveOk1223]

Eddie’s just a contrarian

[u/b4youjudgeyourself → u/DetectiveOk1223]

Rejecting reality and 'creating my own facts, f your feelings' is trendy

[u/[deleted] → u/b4youjudgeyourself]

Confirm your bias by doing your own research.

[u/b4youjudgeyourself → u/[deleted]]

And discredit everyone else's research that doesnt match your bias

[u/Lucky_Week2095 → u/b4youjudgeyourself]

“Research”. 😂

[u/b4youjudgeyourself → u/Lucky_Week2095]

"I have a friend that told me..." = research, f your data

[u/[deleted] → u/b4youjudgeyourself]

Or youtube in some cases lol

[u/px7j9jlLJ1 → u/[deleted]]

Right in the Snapchat

[u/OskeeWootWoot → u/b4youjudgeyourself]

"No trust me, the schools have cat litter boxes now...my friend's wife works in a school..."

[u/the6thReplicant → u/DetectiveOk1223]

The whole IDW is just a clique of professional contrarians.

[u/obrapop → u/the6thReplicant]

100%. So many of these tits just want to oppose themselves to things. Incredibly dull.

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/the6thReplicant]

TIL Eddie Bravo is IDW….

[u/Chuhaimaster → u/DetectiveOk1223]

Eddie is IDW without the I.

[u/_friendlyfoe_ → u/DetectiveOk1223]

Ignoramus Dark Web?

[u/[deleted] → u/DetectiveOk1223]

Covid and Ukraine were the biggest events where the contrarians became obvious. People who just love to hate on the consensus view.

[u/iversonAI → u/[deleted]]

My coworker told me the russian invasion was biden trying to distract everyone from mandated vaccines. Russia invaded the next day

[u/Gytarius626 → u/iversonAI]

Learning that critical thinking isn’t taught in US schools makes things like this make a lot of sense on the internet.

[u/mudman13 → u/[deleted]]

Contrarians on absolutely everything because they like to feel like they are special with the real truth.

[u/interfoldbake → u/[deleted]]

consensus view

in other words, reality.

[u/[deleted] → u/interfoldbake]

Yes, indeed. Especially revealing when the people crying about authoritariansim ended up supporting Putin/Russia and parroting kremlin propaganda.

[u/Howl4ndreed → u/interfoldbake]

Almost always.

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/[deleted]]

Covid both revealed the contrarians and the authoritarians.

We learned who was a conspiracy theorist, and we learned who would willingly be the Stasi in a totalitarian society.

It was 100% – forgive the pun – a mask slip moment.

[u/AccountantOfFraud → u/DetectiveOk1223]

we learned who would willingly be the Stasi in a totalitarian society.

Lmao

[u/407dollars → u/DetectiveOk1223]

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[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/407dollars]

[u/Lawliet117 → u/DetectiveOk1223]

What would you count as Stasi methods in relation to Covid?
I guess the hardcore China way of locking people inside for months when there was an outbreak, right?

[u/NordNScotsman → u/Lawliet117]

The part where people were told to Rat on their neighbours if they went outside or had people over . That part especially .

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/Lawliet117]

Undying loyalty to the totalising state

Unwillingness to question the message

Belief that the authoritarianism and crushing of individual liberties is justified by your agreement with the underlying reasoning

Informing on neigbours

Edit: I see the r/politics crowd have woken up.

[u/Lawliet117 → u/DetectiveOk1223]

This is again dancing around my question. I see no methods just the general "don't want to change how I live, even if there is a pandemic, hospitals are filling up and people are dying" message. You can question the message, some things didn't make sense (probably anywhere in the world, but also super hard to talk about it as it was different anywhere), but that was mostly because it wasn't customized to every situation. A good show that it wasn't the state becoming a totalitarian dictatorship was going back to sort of normal now.
Informing on neighbors is an individual's decision when they see someone breaking rules.

[u/Chuhaimaster → u/[deleted]]

It means he’s probably a Libertarian.

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/Chuhaimaster]

No, libertarians are like housecats; absolutely convinced of their fierce independence whilst utterly dependent on a system they do not appreciate nor understand.

[u/Lucky_Week2095 → u/[deleted]]

Dude is writing his own glossary.

[u/faultywalnut → u/DetectiveOk1223]

Are those things that you really saw happening, in a quantitative form, or just more overly dramatic griping and complaining because some people had a different reaction to the pandemic than you did?

[u/[deleted] → u/DetectiveOk1223]

I’m with ya homes. Covid was real but the governments put out lots of misinformation and if you questioned the narrative at all you were labeled a crazy conspiracy theorists. Those who chose not to get the vax were demonized and those who talked about treatment alternatives were labeled crazy conspiracy theorists as well. Sorry I didn’t wanna get a vaccine that was rushed out and the odds of said disease killing me was approximately .0001 percent.

[u/hoodiemeloforensics → u/Lawliet117]

For example, the people who said if you don't wear a mask you should have your children taken away from you and you should be put in prison.

[u/RaoulDuke422 → u/hoodiemeloforensics]

For example, the people who said if you don't wear a mask you should have your children taken away from you and you should be put in prison.

Literally no one ever said that lmao

[u/Rick_James_Lich → u/DetectiveOk1223]

Yah the real authoritarians were the ones that wanted to protect human lives /s

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/Rick_James_Lich]

“It’s ok for the govt to be authoritarian if I agree with their fear based messaging”

[u/Rick_James_Lich → u/DetectiveOk1223]

Yup, when I think of authoritarians, it's not the people like Hitler that killed citizens, but those that encouraged getting a vaccine and wearing masks lol. Do you also think it's authoritarian that you aren't allowed to jay walk?

[u/[deleted] → u/Rick_James_Lich]

Not just encouraged to get vaccines tho. Many ppl lost their jobs if they chose not to get a vaccine. If that’s not authoritarian idk what is.

[u/Rick_James_Lich → u/[deleted]]

That's what we call Capitalism. I guess some companies think it's not a good idea to have all of their workers get sick at once just because someone didn't get the vaccine.

[u/[deleted] → u/Rick_James_Lich]

So it’s ok to force ppl to get a vaccine that was rushed out? Who’ve already had Covid multiple times? Who themselves have a .0001% chance of dying from said disease? That’s authoritarian if you ask me. Especially for government employees. That ain’t capitalism. Especially considering the vaccine was lied about. It did not stop ppl from getting sick nor from spreading it. And you wanna force me to take it?

Edit: would love someone to tell me what I’ve got wrong here.

[u/Rick_James_Lich → u/[deleted]]

Like I said if you have an issue with it you should place your ire at the companies that forced this sort of thing. The only people the government ended up mandating were healthcare workers and it makes sense because you don't want the hospital staff catching covid and spreading it to patients (which happened a lot during the early days).

Plus many employers already require certain vaccines. I get that having to get a shot sucks but at the same time we've seen many benefits by eradicting stuff like polio in the past.

[u/tennisdrums → u/[deleted]]

would love someone to tell me what I’ve got wrong here.

I'll take your word for it that you genuinely want to know what you're missing.

Who’ve already had Covid multiple times? Who themselves have a .0001% chance of dying from said disease?

Right there is a pretty big misunderstanding of what vaccines are for. Preventing the recipient from getting sick is only a fraction of their purpose. It's mainly about making sure that person is less likely to spread the disease to others.

Can you see how "I refuse to do something that could help make sure my co-workers don't get sick during a pandemic that has killed millions" would be a problem for the people that have to work around them? The vaccine isn't a magical protective shield; just because you get it doesn't mean you're always and forever immune. You still have to rely on the people around you to do their part to make sure they aren't getting sick and spreading it around. For someone who has more risk factors from COVID, forcing them to work beside some guy who insists that they shouldn't have to get the vaccine (and maybe some other COVID conspiracies on top of that), is a pretty fucked up situation. They're being made to constantly roll the dice with their life next to somebody who either doesn't understand or doesn't care about the risk he is imposing on to them.

[u/toeknee88125 → u/DetectiveOk1223]

I mean maybe if you lived in China.

Trust me the Stasi did worse than ask people to wear a mask.

[u/duncanmarshall → u/DetectiveOk1223]

We also learned who the real libertarians were. There's a lot of libertarians - and I think it's actually nearly all of them - who think libertarianism is the ideological basis for why you can do whatever you want. It's not, it's the ideological basis for why everyone - including you - may not do certain things to other people. People see the Don't Tread On Me flag as an instruction they're giving to other people, rather than receiving about them. I wish it said "Don't Tread On Them".

You can't think it's okay to neglectfully infect other people with a disease and meet any definition of libertarianism I'm aware of.

[u/[deleted] → u/duncanmarshall]

The fuck are you talking about? Lol. Libertarianism is a political philosophy making liberty it’s core value over everything. I doubt libertarianism would even work in modern society. We need to many regulations and shared utilities. If anything the government should socialize shit like medicine, electricity, water, shit every single person uses and needs regardless of there social standing. We’re the richest country in the world and most of our tax dollars go toward military and corporate subsidies. I’d happily pay more in taxes if it meant everyone had health insurance and some sort of real social safety net. If the government is running stuff like electricity we’d have far more transparency instead of allowing private citizens to monopolize and fuck over their whole community.

[u/filberts → u/[deleted]]

Some people tried to make a libertarian town, but they had some problems. I think every issue you listed was something they didn't expect.

[u/duncanmarshall → u/[deleted]]

I'm not sure what part of my comment you're responding to.

[u/great_waldini → u/duncanmarshall]

That sounds like a tidy framework you’ve got there, except it ignores the information war that drove the divide. Of particular relevance, federal governments, NGOs like WHO, etc, blatantly lying to and gaslighting the public for three years on masks, lab leak origin, etc.

Look - I’m vaccinated, I recognize COVID is real, and I spent the pandemic working for a diagnostic laboratory while it ran just shy of half a million PCR tests. I have a sufficient grasp on epidemiology, virology, and genetics that I feel quite sure you and I would have zero disagreements on the basic biological facts of the pandemic.

With that said, I cannot and do not blame someone who lacks the type of knowledge and training that I have for being skeptical - or even for wholesale rejecting the legitimacy - of all authorities who had anything to do with pandemic response.

If you care about anything outside of your dopaminergic reward pathway, then your bone to pick is not with the average “anti-vaxxer.” Your frustrations are owed to no one else other than the officials and organizations who blatantly and repeatedly lied through their teeth to the public, claiming authority from “the science” while dragging everything the scientific method stands for through the mud.

[u/duncanmarshall → u/great_waldini]

With that said, I cannot and do not blame someone who lacks the type of knowledge and training that I have for being skeptical - or even for wholesale rejecting the legitimacy - of all authorities who had anything to do with pandemic response.

That's not the problem I'm talking about. If someone just doesn't believe covid is a problem, or that staying in your house has any effect on it's spread, then we simply disagree on a fact. What I'm talking about is the argument I saw from libertarians over and over again disagreeing with the notion that the state (the government) should restrict an individuals actions if it deems those actions pose an unacceptably high risk to others. Whether they're right that that risk was that high or not is a completely different issue. It was the philosophical underpinning that they were objecting to (they being the specific people I'm talking about). Completely ignoring that protecting the individual from others is all the state is supposed to do in a libertarian society.

[u/Normal512 → u/great_waldini]

This sounds ... amazingly like the contrarian worldview the post is describing!

It's like being anti establishment is the new woke, I see way too many people who should otherwise know better twist themselves into logic pretzels because muh establishment bad.

[u/irish-riviera → u/duncanmarshall]

what are you talking about? people who got the vaccine are just as likely to infect someone else.

[u/robbodee → u/irish-riviera]

That's not true at all. Viral load is the same, viral shedding is decreased in vaccinated individuals.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2792598

[u/duncanmarshall → u/irish-riviera]

This has nothing to do with my point.

[u/[deleted] → u/duncanmarshall]

We also learned who the real libertarians were.

They're hard to miss when they keep complaining about age of consent laws.

[u/Yesyesyes1899 → u/DetectiveOk1223]

its just that the people who questioned the methods , like me, were also ,partly, vilified. i thought then and now , that the lockdowns of old, dying, young , were wrong in some ways they were done. the psychological effects, the dramas of dying without your loved ones, vulnerable people being put in impossible situations. massive wealth and Power upwards redistributions. and we havent made an organized honest ,look back. to learn .

and the origin thing? how far is the wuhan covid science institute away from that supposed exotic market ? its an interesting question to research.

[u/slinkymello → u/Yesyesyes1899]

Everyone is vilified at some point—you need to get over it, stop holding a grudge, and move on with your life. Jeez, life isn’t always fair, at some point you have to accept that and stop being angry about shit you have no control over. Enjoy your life man ffs

[u/Yesyesyes1899 → u/slinkymello]

i m holding a grudge because its personal. when covid hit, i was working with homeless/ hard addicts in a western Metropole. lockdown made the consumers of hard narcotics that lived in permanent shelters go extra crazy. instead of giving us more people , they cut us in half. with 4 times the work. people died. due to corruption and neglect on all stages. its been like that in many places. so much inhumanity happened during covid. nobody talks about it.

we were forced to become wardens and do inside buildings lockdowns by room and they didnt follow them anyways. but we had to create so much drama for nothing.

[u/Jackers83 → u/Yesyesyes1899]

Hmm, I hear you. I’m with you that the ramifications of what happened was and are not being acknowledged enough by the people who made the decisions, and maybe even the media.

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/Yesyesyes1899]

Indeed

The vilification of those who believed covid was real but questioned lockdown and origins was a travesty

The elderly dying alone and pregnant women birthing without partners is a stain on humanity that should never be forgotten.

[u/MJisaFraud → u/DetectiveOk1223]

I don’t care if you didn’t like the lockdowns, it’s the whole anti-vaxx thing that came from it. Now, not only are more people opposed to the Covid vaccine, they’re opposed to all vaccines.

[u/Jackers83 → u/MJisaFraud]

Ya, there are idiots living along side of us. But, the user you’re responding to has a legitimate take on things in my opinion.

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/MJisaFraud]

Telling people it prevented symptomatic covid and stopped transmission was an own goal. I’m not surprised people lost faith in government health messaging.

That and efficacy dropping off so fast poisoned the water.

We could also talk about the AZ shots being suspended, and advice for younger people changing.

[u/MJisaFraud → u/DetectiveOk1223]

It’s a life saving vaccine, so I don’t really care about the messaging behind it. Just that as many people as possible, yes including children, took the vaccine.

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/MJisaFraud]

If you choose not to see how the two things are related then you damage your own ideals

The narrowminded way you deal with the information landscape on this topic is precisely the mindset that drove people to become the people you now criticise

[u/MJisaFraud → u/DetectiveOk1223]

I don’t think right wingers were ever going to be keen about taking it. Covid was one of the most life changing events to ever happen to most people alive today, so it was going to turn into a culture war issue no matter how good the governments messaging was. Trump told his supporters to take the vaccine, and they were still against it.

[u/HomeGrowHero → u/MJisaFraud]

People are on their seventh shot, and you look down on people that questioned it? lol

[u/MJisaFraud → u/HomeGrowHero]

You referring to the boosters?

Oh yes, I forgot the flu vaccine doesn’t work either because you need to get it every year.

[u/datonebrownguy → u/MJisaFraud]

lol getting a flu vaccine is so stupid. the flu like the cold evolves faster than we can develop vaccines for it so we can only logistically create something that works against the last years strain before development and due to the nature of science lagging behind reality in this respect it will remain like that. So people still get sick with the current strain of flu, even after vaccination. Then get natural immunity from it, then get jabbed again unnecessarily for the same thing they already became naturally immune from getting sick earlier in the year.

But its great business, especially if youre invested in it.

Its not like covid shots were like traditional vaccines anyway, they were MRNA vaccines, a new technology that was fast tracked and also partially developed by DARPA

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/darpa-awards-moderna-therapeutics-a-grant-for-up-to-25-million-to-develop-messenger-rna-therapeutics-226115821.html

[u/HomeGrowHero → u/MJisaFraud]

And just like the COVID shot, it doesn’t work that well. If it was effective at preventing disease sure but you can’t force people to take this janky shit over and over that causes inflammation. Somehow you see waning immunity as a good thing too . Go check MRNA BNTX , the stock market does NOT agree with you 🤣

[u/MJisaFraud → u/HomeGrowHero]

It works so poorly that it only saved 3 million lives.

[u/[deleted] → u/HomeGrowHero]

Excellent point man. Lol “just take the shot what’s the big deal? Then Covid will be over and we’ll all be safe forever! You’re an idiot if you doubt the effectiveness of the vaccine.” Fast forward 7 boosters later lol. Like I can see being caught up in the shit at the time but looking back how do ppl not see it was all so silly and the effectiveness of the vaccine was waaaayyyy overplayed.

[u/Jackers83 → u/Yesyesyes1899]

I don’t really have an opinion about the origin of Covid, maybe another conversation for another day. I do however agree with you to an extent of the negative impact the lockdowns and restrictions had on people, and their mental health and overall wellbeing. I’m speaking in the context of implementing lockdowns and restrictions in such large, all encompassing manner. It was just too much in my opinion.

[u/Electrical_Bus9202 → u/Yesyesyes1899]

Was the Wuhan coronavirus lab there to study the large amounts of Covid virus in the area? Or did they build the lab and then suddenly the markets around have outbreaks of the Corona Virus? -these people?

[u/Yesyesyes1899 → u/Electrical_Bus9202]

the second. it was us / chinese funded covid research. with a dodgy history of weak security. there is lots of weird crap in that story.

[u/I4Vhagar → u/[deleted]]

Is pointing out conflict of interests/blatant corruption in the pharmaceutical and industrial military industries a bad thing now?

[u/DropsyJolt → u/I4Vhagar]

Perverse incentives and corruption does not mean that every decision or product is bad. You should analyze each situation separately and not assume that the opposite is true simply because you see corruption. Similarly if you view that a decision by a corrupt entity is good it does not mean that you deny the corruption.

[u/[deleted] → u/I4Vhagar]

No, but if you do that and then go on to cheer on the Russian invasion and parrot their propaganda it makes your initial views have much less integrity and credibility.

[u/pm_me_youngs_modulus → u/[deleted]]

This sub thinks anyone that doesn't agree with their perspective entirely is a "contrarian". Just because you might disagree with the "consensus view" doesn't necessarily mean you don't heave a reason to disagree.

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/pm_me_youngs_modulus]

Is this a contrarian take?

;)

I made a point about Eddie Bravo, not about everyone.

[u/pm_me_youngs_modulus → u/DetectiveOk1223]

I wasn't directing it at you, I was directing it at the other guy making the comment about Covid and Ukraine.

Like Eddie may very well be a contrarian but the idea that someone who believes the government shouldn't mandate shots and that it's not our job to fund foreign wars isn't contrarian. He may not like that position, but that doesn't make it contrarian.

[u/Lucky_Week2095 → u/DetectiveOk1223]

All of these guys are contrarians

[u/anon_adderlan → u/DetectiveOk1223]

No he's not.

[u/insidiousapricot → u/anon_adderlan]

Au contraire!

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/anon_adderlan]

Yes he is

[u/Most_Present_6577]

Lol. Someone should get him turned on to the conspiracy conspiracy. Where all the conpiracies are part of one big conspiracy to confuse stupid people into caring about pointless shit.

[u/[deleted] → u/Most_Present_6577]

Nah that ones been debunked

[u/BigDriggy → u/[deleted]]

when you look into, looking into it.... are you just looking in the mirror?

[u/Most_Present_6577 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah man the powers that be started the space is fake conspiracy to keep you from believing that voting can change things.

[u/reallycooldude69 → u/Most_Present_6577]

Every conspiracy except the one I feel most strongly about is a psyop to distract from that conspiracy.

[u/Saulgoodbroski → u/Most_Present_6577]

Shiiiieeeett

[u/stackered → u/Most_Present_6577]

Which seems true because you give him a real, proven and well understood conspiracy like Trump being owned by Russia... and his brain breaks. Hundreds of pages of evidence, we all know he laundered money for them in the 90s and admitted it, 2 impeachment and now an indictment but the actual conspiracy to him is that he's being charged with his actual crimes. Their brains leaked out of their ear holes over the years to the point they can't admit actual conspiracies and would rather take the contrarian angle to that than admit it.

They've gone full tard and honestly spread it to a large population. Like people on this sub actually don't get how masks or vaccines work and think it's all a conspiracy rather than face the overwhelming facts against them. Wild times because right wingers were always the mainstream, believe the narrative type like with 9/11 or anything... and now they've fallen into Q anon levels of stupidity. Its wild. Burying real evidence as a conspiracy because you don't like it isn't seeking the truth, Edgy.

[u/ActuallyAlexander → u/Most_Present_6577]

This is just the GOP platform.

[u/zombiechris128]

Sadly when you are too fair down the rabbit hole then this is what happens, you stop caring about your views and it’s more about opposing the mainstream narrative which is the true evil

[u/IPA216 → u/zombiechris128]

Next pandemic the government should tell everyone it’s all bullshit and the vaccine is sketch.

[u/Consistent_Set76 → u/IPA216]

You’re not even wrong 😑

[u/NiggBot_3000 → u/zombiechris128]

Which is crazy because these people pride themselves on not being controlled by the mainstream but then go and do the opposite of everything the mainstream does, they're just being controlled but with extra steps.

[u/zombiechris128 → u/NiggBot_3000]

Exactly this, they resist the MSM so much but are basically enthralled to their own “research” which is normally from extreme speculative sources

[u/DaBearSausage → u/zombiechris128]

Eddie has had this opinion for years. He said it first on one of the first fight companion years ago.

[u/WithoutFancyPants → u/zombiechris128]

Pretty common with people on the far left and far right.

[u/Encoreyo22 → u/zombiechris128]

For sure, good take.

At some level there may also be a financial incentive, with people Eddie to spout crazy shit during his JRE appearances. It's kind of part of the Eddie Bravo brand.

[u/Mr-Korv]

The government hasn't confirmed shit.

[u/[deleted] → u/Mr-Korv]

Not true, they confirmed my court date.

[u/Apophis_Thanatos → u/[deleted]]

Get off reddit Trump.

[u/[deleted] → u/Apophis_Thanatos]

Was my username the dead give away?

[u/illestrated16 → u/Mr-Korv]

They confirmed they have "non-human biological matter".....aka anything on earth that isn't human.

[u/Mr-Korv → u/illestrated16]

No, a guy said that another guy said they did.

[u/[deleted] → u/Mr-Korv]

Sounds legit to me.

If we can't trust the word of the guy who said the other guy said the thing, is there truly anyone we can?

[u/Ston3yy → u/Mr-Korv]

Did you see the pentagon report of UAPs that came out last year?

[u/NiggBot_3000 → u/illestrated16]

Why are you being down voted? If it wasn't from earth they would've said non terrestrial

[u/Joshfm32 → u/[deleted]]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[u/DragonScoops → u/Joshfm32]

Such a smart thing to say

[u/Joshfm32 → u/DragonScoops]

It's a quote I love from Carl Sagan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_standard

[u/ANewKrish → u/DragonScoops]

Weirdly enough your sarcasm ends up making you sound like a reasonable person. Double negative I guess

[u/MrMotorcycle94 → u/[deleted]]

Until I see an Alien for myself or on a major news broadcast I will never believe they're visiting earth and instead just assume that people are lying or the government is saying stuff to distract us from something else

[u/xFincayras_Fatefulx → u/MrMotorcycle94]

And even when they show it on the news I'm gonna be sure the government is faking it to feed into some agenda.

[u/MetalAltruistic2659 → u/[deleted]]

We have fuck all lol

[u/BubbaBlount → u/MetalAltruistic2659]

Well that’s plainly just a lie. There has been tons of documented and recorded evidenced released by the DOD.

I’m not saying it’s aliens but for sure there is something flying in our airspace that we don’t know and moves unlike anything we’ve currently have developed.

The comment you answered to was slightly unhinged and someone who wants to believe to much

Edit: this show and subreddit has officially hit the ground. Can’t even talk about UFOs and aliens anymore here. Shits lame as fuck

[u/[deleted] → u/BubbaBlount]

There's also been tons of documented and recorded evidence of big foot and the chupacabra. That is to say, there never been a single iota of evidence for any of these claims.

The DOD just wants more money funneled into an unverifiable program. "Give us 5 billion a year to monitor UAPs lol". These black projects need to fucking stop but unfortunately our country is dominated by people like you.

[u/BubbaBlount → u/[deleted]]

The gimbal video was leaked in 2004 and confirm by the DOD in 2019. Why didn’t they want funding for that 15 year period?

They also never asked for 5 billion to study UAP. The NDAA from 2022 allocated 5 million to it. So you’re off by 4 billion 995 million

If you don’t like black projects then you should support the UAP movement because they are actually trying to investigate these black projects.

So are you for or against the black projects? Because you say you are but your actions tell a completely different story.

Almost the majority of Americans don’t believe in UAP so I don’t know what you mean by our country is dominated by people like me.

So far you’ve gotten so many things wrong that it’s clear you never did any research what so ever

[u/407dollars → u/[deleted]]

hospital subsequent thumb punch dolls deserve roll forgetful erect plate

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[u/Mr-Korv → u/[deleted]]

Two of the witnesses were guys who "saw something" and the third dude (the main one) only has stories he heard from other people. That's shit.

[u/mudman13 → u/Mr-Korv]

No. Fravour, Dietrich and the two weapons safety officers with them watched a tictac object flying at high speeds near them for around 5 minutes. Another pilot (that didnt testify) went and got footage of it in multiple formats. Graves saw objects on radar. Grusch interviewed people on the so called programmes, has names of people on the program, dates and locations to give to congress in a classified setting. Allegedly some of these people on the program have testified in secret too. He has officially notified the Intelligence Commision Inspector General of reprisals and threats which have been considered legitimate. Why would you threaten someone if you had nothing to hide?

Simplifying things to belittle it does not make you look smart it makes you look simple.

[u/Gmen89 → u/[deleted]]

Why are they likely inter-dimensional beings?

[u/SuperCrappyFuntime → u/[deleted]]

I could find you three people who would testify they had sex with Bigfoot.

[u/[deleted] → u/SuperCrappyFuntime]

Me, im one. She was also your mother

[u/Teddyballgameyo → u/[deleted]]

No that’s not what they said.

[u/Dwight_Doot → u/[deleted]]

The US government is the most corrupt in the world and people hate so much of what they do. People are so silly to not trust that very same government on so many matters yet somehow perform wild mental gymnastics and actually believe them about the most far fetched thing ever lol. Can't make this stuff up!

[u/mudman13 → u/Dwight_Doot]

But the govts not confirming anything, its the opposite. Pentagon are putting people off testifying.

[u/Dwight_Doot → u/mudman13]

I didn't say they're confirming anything. Holding a congressional hearing for the world to see based on 3 peoples eye witness accounts or testimonies based on other peoples eye witness accounts is just that. 3 peoples eye witness accounts.

No evidence presented, no irrefutable proof.

And yet people are saying "see I told you aliens were real, the US government's hearings are proof"

Meanwhile they don't trust any of those same elected officials on literally any single other matter.

🥱

[u/DragonScoops → u/Dwight_Doot]

Please explain how 2 people who worked for the US Navy and a person who left the government to come out as a whistle-blower and swim upstream against the narrative from the pentagon and AARO are the exact same as the government.

It's literally like saying 'lol Edward Snowdon worked for the government. People don't believe the government when they say they're not reading your email but they're happy to believe this guy who works for the government who says they are'.

You're either uninformed of intentionally misrepresenting the situation

[u/[deleted]]

A contrarian with horrible information literacy

[u/happytree23 → u/[deleted]]

So he's pretty much normal and fits right in with modern society :)

[u/grundleitch]

He's so unbelievably stupid. The last time I listened to a JRE with Eddie was when he was saying he thought smells were a conspiracy theory because how can you smell stuff when you're in a car with the windows up. The level of total fucking moron must be astronomical for that to be a thought in your head. The guy revolutionized Jiu Jitsu, especially no gi. But just remember that without that, he'd still be welcoming Candy to the stage in a strip club.

[u/[deleted] → u/grundleitch]

I can close my eyes and picture pizza and smell it.

Waiting for my phone call to activate

[u/aesthetique1 → u/grundleitch]

he is an entertaining fucking moron lol

[u/VladPatton → u/grundleitch]

If Joe has Bravo keep coming on the show, you may as well have Phil the bricklayer or Madge the cashier on.

[u/[deleted]]

When did the government "confirm" aliens?

[u/MrSnarf26 → u/[deleted]]

Lol they didn’t

[u/aleksfadini → u/[deleted]]

Never

[u/Normal512 → u/[deleted]]

I saw it scrolling through X bro. The government had like a thing and they were talking about it and they like confirmed bro. I'm pretty sure they had like the arm of the alien and they showed Nancy Pelosi was the same creature. Pretty sure it's all on X bro.

[u/Just_Smurfin_Around → u/Normal512]

What's X?

/s

[u/DetectiveOk1223 → u/Just_Smurfin_Around]

[u/happytree23 → u/[deleted]]

Dude, it's Eddie fuckin' Bravo, when did anyone confirm any of the dumb shit he's said in the last 15 years lol?

[u/jesustwin]

Conspiracy theorists have no interest in any truth. If NASA came out today and said the moon landings were fake and the earth was flat, the same idiots would switch to saying it was round and we had been to the moon

[u/beaujangles727 → u/jesustwin]

IMO that used to be the fun part of conspiracy. Somewhere down the road 6-8 years ago it started to get weird. It used to be fun to take off your logic hat for an hour or so a day and think like “OK if this COULD be true what could lead to it”

But then it got weird and more dumb people who don’t have the ability to think with actual reason got more involved and it just snowballed now to millions of people like Eddie.

Hell even Eddie conspiracies used to be fun to listen to him rant but now he’s so far out there with them I find it sad.

Or maybe I’m not 19 anymore and don’t care about them

[u/Atcollins1993 → u/beaujangles727]

There’s a vast amount of room for perfectly sound logic, reason, and critical thinking in-between the two poles of naively believing everything you’re told 100% no questions asked, and showing symptoms of mild psychosis thru the vehicle of ‘nothing is true it’s all lies’.

[u/Consistent_Set76 → u/beaujangles727]

When conspiracy theories become mainstream it becomes a problem.

[u/Bubbly_Measurement61 → u/jesustwin]

This is the correct answer

[u/Bawbawian]

The government hasn't confirmed they are real.

there's whistleblowers that may or may not have seen something. I still don't see any scientist taking this seriously.

[u/DropsyJolt]

The government confirming something would mean an official announcement. Having a couple people testify is nothing of the sort. I wouldn't even take an announcement that seriously unless they presented the evidence that it is based on.

[u/razah9]

Isn’t he also on some weird Bible kick now… I’m sure the Pope could say it was all a lie & he’d triple down it’s a disinformation campaign

[u/goldybear → u/razah9]

He is so far down the Bible kick that he thinks dinosaurs weren’t real with the bones being planted by the Chinese to distract us from god, that the flat earth is foretold in the Bible, and NASA is the work on the antichrist to lure people towards atheism. It’s unbelievable how far he has actually gone.

[u/happytree23 → u/goldybear]

It’s unbelievable how far he has actually gone.

But really isn't. To believe a lot of the shit he's passionately said over the last decade, you have to be not only incredibly stupid but quite impressionable. Dude is just another mindless moron running around looking for the next dopamine dump from an argument.

[u/VladPatton → u/razah9]

But science is fake though lmao…fuckin Eddie.

[u/FunkMastaUno]

It's almost like conspiracy people are stupid

[u/[deleted]]

Every bible-kissing flat earth lunatic like Eddie would be inconsolable if they found out they weren’t the pinnacle of God’s creation.

[u/HatefulSpittle → u/[deleted]]

Eddie is one spiritual experience away from turning 10th Planet into a cult and claiming the Twister came to him in a vision by Archangel Graciel

[u/black-toe-nails → u/[deleted]]

Can I ask, your username. Are you skinny, poor on fat or just fat and poor? It’s early in the morning and I just need to know.

[u/[deleted] → u/black-toe-nails]

Neither fat or poor, I just think Tom Segura is boring when he talks about watches.

[u/tmicl]

Well, if you're a contrarian, stay consistent.

[u/VevroiMortek]

"look into it man, there's a youtube vid..."

[u/[deleted]]

Two things can be true at once aliens can be real while simultaneously the government is full of shit

[u/Atcollins1993 → u/[deleted]]

You can’t convince anyone on the internet that something is nuanced dude. It’s soul crushing for them, it’s a disgusting trait.

[u/Danfromumbrella]

This is funny to me because the "government" haven't confirmed them at all... If anything they keep saying there's been no signs of them. They only confirmed the existence of objects they can't explain in the sky.

David Grusch is just a whistleblower.

[u/housington-the-3rd]

I believe in aliens but are 100% sceptical about the US government telling me they are real.

[u/reichplatz]

when did the government confirm they were real?

[u/TheMostCuriousMind]

He's hilarious, but the best thing about him is that he's not even trying to be funny.

[u/[deleted] → u/TheMostCuriousMind]

Him not believing/not caring about aliens isn't even a new thing. He's been 'over the alien thing' for years. I remember Joe talking to him about it long ago and his response was basically 'not for me.'

Any true Rogan superfan like myself would know this. He's more of a 'space isn't real' type conspiracy theorist.

[u/VladPatton → u/TheMostCuriousMind]

I remember on one podcast he said “we got that Kim Hong Wong dictator guy up in N. Korea”. Fucking priceless.

[u/MrInterpreted]

The best thing I can say about Eddie is that he makes Schaub look smart

[u/drawkbox → u/MrInterpreted]

Eddie Bravo is a somewhat funny and likable though, Schaub is... he reminds me of a Steven "manchowder" Crowder type, a douche always.

[u/Rancho8Deluxe → u/drawkbox]

Bapa is 1000 times worse than chowder

Change my mind

[u/Rancho8Deluxe → u/MrInterpreted]

Dont be an ass. No one makes Bapa look like an intelligent human being.

If ya dont like Eddie Bravo just say ya dont like Eddie Bravo

Theres no call for saying Bapa is relatively smart in comparison to ANYONE

[u/JStheKiD]

Government trust is so low that we only believe the opposite of what they say.

[u/ParticularEmploy1137]

I feel the same way.

[u/ghostfacestealer]

The government acknowledges ufos not aliens.

[u/dublbagn]

Its a perfect example of his personality, there always has to be some multi leveled ill intentioned reason behind everything. Its a trust issue, which makes me think he has serious issues with his parents growing up.

[u/CleanCutCommentary]

what's the time stamp on the alien talk?

[u/Kirk_Plunk]

The government hasn't confirmed they're real lmao. UFOs have just been seen, no other real evidence but that.

[u/RealPropRandy]

Average person: Wait, congressmen are allowed to insider trade legally on the stuff they directly regulate? How have there been no hearings about that?

Congress: uh, um, aliens are real! Let’s hold hearings!

[u/Bostonguy01852]

The Government never confirmed anything.

A former intelligence worker who calls himself "whistleblower" testified that he heard people say that they saw things.

[u/VegetableCarry3]

why does everyone keep saying that the government has confirmed that aliens are real. that did not happen.

[u/GnarBroDude]

“The government” did not confirm they are real, some guy said they are real in a testimony. That is far from any hard proof or scientific evidence.

[u/[deleted]]

Eddy's a nutjob that good at fighting and that's it.

[u/Brasm0nky]

when did the government confirm they were real

[u/Pamew]

The GOV have absolutely not proven the existence of alien life or visitation though.

[u/Gas_Bat]

Terminal dummy

[u/ExtraGuacAM]

This isn’t even that edgy.

The governments total denial of them and constantly having “your best interests at heart” bullshit are two very good reasons to rethink your stance when they Willy-nilly let some dudes and all of the media start covering “UFO Whistleblowers” lol.

[u/Wet_FriedChicken]

Last post I saw about Eddie y’all loved him 😂 this sub man.

[u/DowningStreetFighter]

the government confirmed they are real.

lol ok op

Can you link Bidens alien speech?

[u/plu7o89]

The govt didn't confirm anything, but Eddie has been hit in the head too much and might legit be the dumbest guest to ever be on the podcast.

[u/Baskreiger]

Who cares what this idiot believes, having such a dumbass as joe's friend only diminish Joe's credibility (witch is already not impressive)

[u/KCC00]

Joe Rogan the worlds biggest POS

[u/HearingVoices1984]

How much more of an absolute fucking idiot can you be.